TBM-3 AVENGER STRIKE CAMERA

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  1. fubar57

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    Anyone have a better photo or drawing of this camera?

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    Humm interesting, not the exact same camera but I did take these this year at Airventure. Note this camera is rear facing. I will see if I can dig some more up today.
     

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    Humm interesting, not the exact same camera but I did take these this year at Airventure. Note this camera is rear facing. I will see if I can dig some more up today.
     
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    Thanks Paul.




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    Beauty Paul. I've seen some that were mounted vertical. If i can't find anything else, your photo will do just fine.




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    No problem Geo, glad I could help :)
     
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    The rear-facing camera was for strike/damage assesment?
     
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    Correct!!!
     
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    Fantastic detail on flying warbirds!
     
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    Hmmmm.....found this large profile, the same as the photo, better showing the camera. Looks different, more like a hand held Nikon or Canon.

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    Double hmmmm.

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    There were several different types used.

    There was the USN Aircraft, Torpedo, K-20 (which looks like a hand-held camera) and the Vought, Aircraft, Torpedo, Type 1 (like the image you posted earlier) and others.

    Looking at the illustration, it looks like that aircraft has the K-20 mounted.
     
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    In the USA at that time, it most certainly would not have been a Japanese camera! ... unless the photos are of a TMF in modern times with a camera on it. I doubt that since modern, privately-owned TBF's aren't going to be dropping torpedoes.
     
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    Question marks? Really?

    The TBF / TBM was a WWII bird. Nikon is a Japanese company. We would NOT have been using a Nikon in WWII, certainly. Cannon is a Japanese multinational corpporation and, again, we would not have been using Cannons in WWII either.

    Might be using a Polaroid or a Brownie, Bell Howell, Cinneflex, Keystone, Kodak, a Vinten, or maybe even a German Zeiss obtained through Switzerland. We had a LARGE stock of Zeiss cameras in the USA before the war started, especially the Press.

    But I doubt we'd have been using a Japanese camera. Today, all my cameras are Japanese and all are digital except my father's old 35 mm SLR film cameras that I never use anymore.

    Heck, I'm not even sure where I'd have the film developed anymore. Might have to do it myself, and that isn't gonna' happen while I have a digital camera avaiable. Plus I don't have the chemicals anymore, either.
     
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    #17 fubar57, Sep 29, 2015
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    I said it was shaped like a hand held camera. As I own Nikons and a Canon, theses were the examples I used not the assumption that the camera on the aircraft was Japanese. Had I owned a Leica and a Hasselblad, I would have used these as examples.
     
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    Hi Fubar,

    Wasn't fussing at you. Just observed the two examples you used were Japanese ... and thought that was strange during a WWII timeframe.

    Hasselblad was certainly an option.
     
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    Not many American cameras during the late 30's and early 40's looked like a modern Japanese camera, so I got Geo's comparison. And that forward-facing K-20 camera in the illustration sure looks like a modern japanese SLR! :lol:

    And not sure if the government would have used a Swiss Hasselblad back in those days, either!
     
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    No problem Greg, back to the cameras. Was the K-20 camera Dave mentioned a still camera or movie camera? Though it looks similar, would a still camera be used as a rocket strike camera?

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