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A basic grasp of geography would reveal that Germany is due east of England.Wow, I grew up in Southend and never knew that it faced Germany, which it doesn't. Are you American or something? This is the biggest pile of crap that I've ever read on this site.
I guess he could be referring to the Netherlands, i.e. the Dutch as opposed to the Deutsch, but that would be like calling a Canadian, an American.A basic grasp of geography would reveal that Germany is due east of England.
Even this stupid American knows that Berlin is further north than London...
If you set off from Calais and head exactly due east you will go right though the German industrial area then to Hanover and then Berlin, you are wrong, I suggest you apologise.I guess he could be referring to the Netherlands, i.e. the Dutch as opposed to the Deutsch, but that would be like calling a Canadian, an American.![]()
Wow, I grew up in Southend and never knew that it faced Germany, which it doesn't. Are you American or something? This is the biggest pile of crap that I've ever read on this site.
No chance mate, as you can see Southend is opposite the Netherlands. If you're going a bombing to Berlin you're going to come down from Lincolnshire or Yorkshire. If you're going to bomb Southend you're going to come across from Belgium or the Netherlands. You've shown a map of the route their tanks would have had to take. East Anglia has never been opposite Germany in all its geographical history, its always been opposite the Netherlands.If you set off from Calais and head exactly due east you will go right though the German industrial area then to Hanover and then Berlin, you are wrong, I suggest you apologise. View attachment 529175
Its still a pile of crap. You should have said north of The Wash. Both Belgium and the Netherlands were neutrals at the beginning of WW2.Let me see if I can clarify this "pile of crap".
A, I never said that southend faced Germany, please quote where I did.
B, I said "Any Chain Home station north of Southend (north side of the Thames) was facing Germany.
C, Yes, the German planes would have overfly Belgium and Holland (mostly Holland).
D, Southend is just slightly higher in latitude than Essen Germany (and roughly in line with the rather twisty border between Belgium and Holland.
E, Essen is about 150 miles from the North Coast of Germany
F, I may be an American but even I know that a radar station built in Bamburgh England is not Facing France.
In an aeroplane you can fly over things, I do admit you cant sail a ship across the Netherlands. The UK had already been hit from the air by raids launched from Germany in WW1 and a 1940s German bomber can easily reach London from Duisburg. The line on the map is there to call it up from google maps.No chance mate, as you can see Southend is opposite the Netherlands. If you're going a bombing to Berlin you're going to come down from Lincolnshire or Yorkshire. If you're going to bomb Southend you're going to come across from Belgium or the Netherlands. You've shown a map of the route their tanks would have had to take. East Anglia has never been opposite Germany in all its geographical history, its always been opposite the Netherlands.
And the Germans scrupulously held to the Hollands neutrality in the first WW I was and never, ever flew Zeppelins or Gothas over or from Belgium Holland?
When I put 1940s I meant 1940, the Germans bombed N Ireland and the north of Scotland in 1940.In 1936 the British did not have a single bomber that could fly from British soil, drop a 500lb on Germany (they might have been able to drop smaller ones) and return. That is NOT Berlin, that is just crossing the German border, they sure weren't planning on making detours. The Germans weren't in any better shape at the time. Plan you air defense accordingly, not what kind of aircraft would be available in 1943.
Lets give each other the benefit of the doubt on basic understanding of geography ... you can look at it different ways obviously, right?
Where were the German airbases for BoB? I always assumed France, Benelux, Norway etc. no?
I'm sorry but the bolded section is flat out incorrect. Hitler's primary objective all along (ie from the early 1930s onwards) was the conquest of the Soviet Union. He viewed Communism as the antithesis of National Socialist ideology and determined early on to wipe it out. His policies demanded autarky for Germany, and "lebensraum" (living space) for the "superior" Aryan race at the expense of the Slavic races which he viewed as subhuman.
Essentially, there was a domino effect of various treaties in the run-up to WW2: the 1904 Entente Cordiale which ensured Britain and France would come to each others' aid in case of war; the 1920-21 "Little Entente" which linked France and Czechoslovakia defensively, and; the 1935 Franco-Soviet Treaty of Mutual Assistance which sought to curb German rearmament and expansionism. The latter 2 ensured that France would be dragged into any war involving Germany against Czechoslovakia or Russia, while the Entente Cordiale guaranteed that Britain would come to France's aid.
The invasion of France, while partly motivated by revenge for the Treaty of Versailles, was necessitated by the 1935 Mutual Assistance treaty: Hitler was trying to avoid a 2-front war with the Soviet Union on one front and the Anglo-French alliance on the other. After defeating France, Hitler tried to persuade Britain to drop out of the fight (the whole "we are not natural enemies" routine).