The F-35 Is Now the World’s Most INSANE Stealth Fighter: Here's Why
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Great clip, fully explains the capabilities that are built into the aircraft, too many ill-informed naysayers never understood this.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Way cool!
Good one!
I've been out to Hill for work, and saw them training quite a bit. It was kind of cool to be be sitting at the Golf Course Club House having lunch and seeing them zoom by overhead.
I still prefer the Raptor...
I still prefer the Raptor...
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
With my lack of aviation knowledge as a given, I would've preferred they appropriated funds for a metric butt load of F-22's. It makes more sense to me to have the best possible weapon in quantity. Yup, taxes go up. Still cheaper than tribute.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I'd like to know details to justify your comments. I know people who have flown the aircraft (F-35A) and that was never mentioned, but then again why???
Oh, and if it's such a failure why are 2 other countries building it?? Over 500 built so far...
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N33
Airman
I couldn't help but notice that the video didn't discuss all the money and time spent just to get the aircraft operational. One could also worry about whether the lack of parts might be a critical problem in a combat situation.
The problem with the heads-up display is maybe less critical, but it was supposed to be a big benefit of the aircraft. Hope they get it working well soon.
The problem with the heads-up display is maybe less critical, but it was supposed to be a big benefit of the aircraft. Hope they get it working well soon.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The F-35 is a multi-role platform type while the F-22 is not.
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Actually it's not - if the F-22 line was open today it's price would be more than 120 mil per copy. F-35A about 80 mil
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
And that would be 120 mil well spent...
Agree, and for at least 200 more
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
In the street rod world, the saying is: "speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?"
In the military aviation world, the same theory applies.
If you want to have a top-line next generation warplane, there will be a price-tag attached - state of the art is not cheap.
In the military aviation world, the same theory applies.
If you want to have a top-line next generation warplane, there will be a price-tag attached - state of the art is not cheap.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Perhaps this should be a new thread.
The press that the F-22 got is that it's THE plane. Legitimate press, Sunday news articles, YouTube, etc.
The F-35, not so much.
An article on a military site compared the F-35 to the Brewster Buffalo. Modifications causing problems leading to further modifications and overruns. I came away with thinking that the F-35 was a short sighted attempt at economy. Too many jobs for the same airframe.
So when The Eagle said he preferred the Raptor, I thought that might be confirmation.
Is the F-35 a world class fighter? It seems to me multi-role or not, we'd want THE superior superiority fighter. If dragged into conflict it would be better to have quality AND quantity.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this. BTW do our torpedoes work?
The press that the F-22 got is that it's THE plane. Legitimate press, Sunday news articles, YouTube, etc.
The F-35, not so much.
An article on a military site compared the F-35 to the Brewster Buffalo. Modifications causing problems leading to further modifications and overruns. I came away with thinking that the F-35 was a short sighted attempt at economy. Too many jobs for the same airframe.
So when The Eagle said he preferred the Raptor, I thought that might be confirmation.
Is the F-35 a world class fighter? It seems to me multi-role or not, we'd want THE superior superiority fighter. If dragged into conflict it would be better to have quality AND quantity.
I'd love to get your thoughts on this. BTW do our torpedoes work?
ODonovan
Airman 1st Class
Re: the video at 11:01 - I imagine the reason they're ramping up F-15 production is two words..."missile boats." A single F-35, operating inside hostile airspace, can designate targets for a number of F-15s. The F-15s fire their long range air to air missiles from beyond detection range, so they don't need to be stealthy. What they DO need is to be larger, twin-engine aircraft which can carry more missiles. Basically, the F-35 is too good at its job. One F-35 can keep any number of F-15s busy.
They even want to make B-52s into "arsenal planes," just to have something to carry enough missiles for the F-35s' targets.
B-52 Arsenal Planes
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They even want to make B-52s into "arsenal planes," just to have something to carry enough missiles for the F-35s' targets.
B-52 Arsenal Planes
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Remember, the F-35 is a STRIKE aircraft, not a dedicated air to air fighter. It's designed to primarily drop bombs. If it has to take on other aircraft, the concept is to either destroy them before the enemy is in range or leave the "dog-fighting" to the F-22.
I've said this many times - cost overruns are not just accepted by the government, they have to be approved and many of those overruns were due to the customer wanting to add things on to the aircraft or contract, the press conveniently never mentions this.
If you examine each version, they are not cookie cutter airframes, there are differences based on their roles but there's enough airframe commonality to make this cost effective in the long run.
The F-22 and the F-35 have two different roles. The Raptor is a dedicated air superiority fighter, and in that role she is the Queen of the skies. Really beautiful to watch her fly.
The Lightning II is a strike aircraft as others have pointed out.
Both are excellent at what they do, but two distinctly different missions.
The Lightning II is a strike aircraft as others have pointed out.
Both are excellent at what they do, but two distinctly different missions.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Thanks for the replies. I've read FLYBOYJ's posts mentioning cost overruns. I know a good chunk of that reporting is either "gotcha!" journalism or someone's attempt to get that expose by-line. Not necessarily good reporting. I read an article in the New York Daily News once referring to an airplane as an ""S and J" trainer.
I was under the impression that the F-22 was supplanted by the Lightning II due to costs. Hence the cheaper airframe given more tasks. Now I have access to more accurate information. Is the F-35 a world beater? Is it a supersonic F2A3? Where did the buzz that the F-35 has problems going supersonic come from or is that more "S and J"?
I was under the impression that the F-22 was supplanted by the Lightning II due to costs. Hence the cheaper airframe given more tasks. Now I have access to more accurate information. Is the F-35 a world beater? Is it a supersonic F2A3? Where did the buzz that the F-35 has problems going supersonic come from or is that more "S and J"?
The F-22 production did cease because of costs.
