The First British Hydrogen Bomb

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Jez curious - what is your definition of
fascist
communist
neo con

you are pretty good at labels without context - I really am curious about your notion of 'objective reporting'.. Guardian? Kos? Fox News?

Maybe contrast your favorite 'fair and balanced' with say Hannity and Combs or the Economist?

:evil4:
 
On the subject of nuclear warheads; the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates to promote the idea that many of their existing warheads cannot be relied upon and hence it is 'vital to national security'* that the idle weapons developers be given billions to replace these largely redundant weapons. Scientific American recently had an article on the subject.

According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...

Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes:rolleyes:

* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...

JL

How about this:

KEEP ON TOPIC! WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?

NOTHING!

STAY ON TOPIC!
 
"KEEP ON TOPIC! WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?"

And then in keeping in the spirit of your chastising demand, your next post is an ad hominem attack...Is this the role of the moderaters here, to make sure everyone toes the party line?

Anyway, since my sardonic little post has resulted in nine ad hominem attacks against myself, I think I'm justified in responding (with apologies to the originater of the thread).

First, I'd like to state for the record that I am not now, nor ever have been, a member of the Communist Party. Or the the NDP, for that matter...

Having said that, I make no bones about my contempt for the present US administration. If that makes me anti-American, or a communist, then so are millions of your fellow compatriots. But then again, those who who avidly swallow the Gospel According to Saints Dubya, Cheney, Coulter, O'Reilly, Colmes, Hannity, Limbaugh, ad nauseum, probably believe exactly that...

Dr Bill's diagnosis of cranial hyper-ossification as cause for my preposterous socialistic delusions, while admirably concise, begs the question of from what authority he makes such conclusions. Are you a board-certified neurologist, as well as the authority on all things aerodynamic? Credentials, work experience, etc., if you please...And while your at it, I suggest that you yourself google the meanings of 'communism', 'fascism', if you wish to know what they mean. Nothing in either of my posts implied any reference to those subjects. You're projecting...Also check out 'lame', 'ad hominem attack', 'mudslinger'...

Anyway, I was going to respond to some more of the specific remarks laid against me, but frankly I've got better things to do than play petty games with the humorless and hypersensitive commisars of the party dogma. I won't be responding to any further ad hominem attacks, so save your ire for the real commies...

Again, I apologize to the starter of this thread. It was not my intention to initiate this pitiful tea-pot (or is that 'tin-pot'?) tempest.

JL
 
"KEEP ON TOPIC! WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?"

And then in keeping in the spirit of your chastising demand, your next post is an ad hominem attack...Is this the role of the moderaters here, to make sure everyone toes the party line?

Anyway, since my sardonic little post has resulted in nine ad hominem attacks against myself, I think I'm justified in responding (with apologies to the originater of the thread).

First, I'd like to state for the record that I am not now, nor ever have been, a member of the Communist Party. Or the the NDP, for that matter...

Having said that, I make no bones about my contempt for the present US administration. If that makes me anti-American, or a communist, then so are millions of your fellow compatriots. But then again, those who who avidly swallow the Gospel According to Saints Dubya, Cheney, Coulter, O'Reilly, Colmes, Hannity, Limbaugh, ad nauseum, probably believe exactly that...

Dr Bill's diagnosis of cranial hyper-ossification as cause for my preposterous socialistic delusions, while admirably concise, begs the question of from what authority he makes such conclusions. Are you a board-certified neurologist, as well as the authority on all things aerodynamic? Credentials, work experience, etc., if you please...And while your at it, I suggest that you yourself google the meanings of 'communism', 'fascism', if you wish to know what they mean. Nothing in either of my posts implied any reference to those subjects. You're projecting...Also check out 'lame', 'ad hominem attack', 'mudslinger'...

Anyway, I was going to respond to some more of the specific remarks laid against me, but frankly I've got better things to do than play petty games with the humorless and hypersensitive commisars of the party dogma. I won't be responding to any further ad hominem attacks, so save your ire for the real commies...

Again, I apologize to the starter of this thread. It was not my intention to initiate this pitiful tea-pot (or is that 'tin-pot'?) tempest.

JL



Ya know I had a much longer response for this but after reading it a few times and considering you did apologize to the originator of this thread I'm not totally going to totally ban your silly @ss. The so called insults thrown at you were done so by your own doing. No one will dictate what kind of "party line" to tote here, there is a great majority of this membership who has great disdain towards the current US Presidential Administration, but their opinions are well thought and articulated - yours was transmitted in a manner that displayed contempt and stupidity.

If you wish to return and act civil, the floor is yours, if you wish to continue your rant, your stay here will be terminated. I do hope I've made myself abundantly clear.
 
Crystal...

I know the Brits are in the process of replacing the Trident D-5, where is the funding stand with this effort?

I don't know the position re total funding (I don't supose anyone does) but I do know that they are modernising and updating the facilities at Burghfield and Aldermaston. Presumably that would be the first step.
 
"KEEP ON TOPIC! WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD?"

Anyway, since my sardonic little post has resulted in nine ad hominem attacks against myself, I think I'm justified in responding (with apologies to the originater of the thread).

First, I'd like to state for the record that I am not now, nor ever have been, a member of the Communist Party. Or the the NDP, for that matter...

Actually - the differences between Fascist and Communist with respect to Human rights is not much. I personally didn't perceive that you were any of those.

Having said that, I make no bones about my contempt for the present US administration. If that makes me anti-American, or a communist, then so are millions of your fellow compatriots.

Duly noted

But then again, those who who avidly swallow the Gospel According to Saints Dubya, Cheney, Coulter, O'Reilly, Colmes, Hannity, Limbaugh, ad nauseum, probably believe exactly that...

And you were complaining about Ad Hominem attacks? 'Swallow' implies belief without thought - is that what you mean? Or did you mean they individually and sometimes collectively hold a different view of the world - and therefore are beneath contempt?

Dr Bill's diagnosis of cranial hyper-ossification as cause for my preposterous socialistic delusions, while admirably concise, begs the question of from what authority he makes such conclusions. Are you a board-certified neurologist, as well as the authority on all things aerodynamic? Credentials, work experience, etc., if you please...And while your at it, I suggest that you yourself google the meanings of 'communism', 'fascism', if you wish to know what they mean. Nothing in either of my posts implied any reference to those subjects. You're projecting...Also check out 'lame', 'ad hominem attack', 'mudslinger'...

I was, and still am, curious regarding your definition of 'neo con' since that was the brush stroke used to 'paint all' as of lower intelligence and comprehension from your own? What is a 'neo con' in your world and how do they automatically get assembled and cast into the 'cretin' bin?

"Bonehead" is slang for a "stupid or dense person". "Stupid and Dense" alternatively, are "uninteresting, trite and or dull" as well as "showing a lack of sense or intelligence"

I put you in the "uninteresting and trite" category with labelling of "neo con' to those that respecttfully disagree with your POV, but are somehow beneath your contempt as a result - and throw in "showing a lack of sense" for the way you conducted yourself.

My qualifications for assigning this one word Webster defined label to you, are therefore 63 years of progressive experience at a.) being the occasional Bonehead, and b.) observing many more that fit the above qualifications - such as yourself.

Does that work for you?


Anyway, I was going to respond to some more of the specific remarks laid against me, but frankly I've got better things to do than play petty games with the humorless and hypersensitive commisars of the party dogma. I won't be responding to any further ad hominem attacks, so save your ire for the real commies...

Again, I apologize to the starter of this thread. It was not my intention to initiate this pitiful tea-pot (or is that 'tin-pot'?) tempest.

JL

As to being the authority on "all things aerodynamic"? Of course not, but certainly far better authority than you. You can cut and paste but you lack the subtlety of reasoning the 'physics' behind the quotes you pose to argue your point.. See definition of 'Bonehead" above for clarity.

I suggest you post a thread to further discuss qualifications on a.) bonehead, b.) Ad Hominem labelling, and c.) maintaining a high degree of 'knee jerk' emotional reactions to opinions or actions you don't either understand or like.

See definition of "maturity" for further clarification?

Regards,

Dr. Gon dog - former and future "Bonehead"

No Degrees in it but lotsa experience - I know 'em when I spot 'em

Sorry for taking the thread off topic - will not make any more comments on
Buszzard - ("an avaricious or unpleasant person" according to Webster's)
 
I had seen facilities in Defense Technology magazine where they had inground tanks that were being used for the modernized missile testing to simulate undersea launches. I'll try to dig them up.

My question about the funding was related to the ongoing infighting in Parliament over defense spending. While some of the other high profile programs were seeing light of day with the press, I had not heard anything of recent related to the UK Trident updates.
 
I think if OSHA (and its British equivelant) had been around in the 40's ..... there would have been no atomic bomb.

Look at the complete lack of basic safety measures the troops dealt with on Christmas Island.

If the safety doctrine of 2008 was applied back then, nothing would have been attempted.
 
War expediency. It was not just the troops during testing. It was also US industry in its development. Just look at the various Manhattan Project cleanup sites that are ongoing today. A good example is just over the mountains from me at the Hanford nuclear reservation. They are still cleaning that place up.

Hanford Site - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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