syscom3
Pacific Historian
Not much is known about the British nuclear program.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFRIiflSgU
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLFRIiflSgU
The First British Hydrogen Bomb
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Very interesting sys, thanks.
Mr Venning's comments on safety precautions were interesting. The "safe area" being regarded as "behind coconut palms" with instructions to "turn up your collar and cover your eyes". Odd that no one was warned of a latter "blast".
Even covering your eyes and wearing sunglasses had little effect...
Britain's Nuclear Weapons - British Nuclear Testing
It all smacks of Maralinga. I see that the British Nuclear Veterans have similar problems...
BNTVA: Home Page
Crazy cold war days...
Mr Venning's comments on safety precautions were interesting. The "safe area" being regarded as "behind coconut palms" with instructions to "turn up your collar and cover your eyes". Odd that no one was warned of a latter "blast".
Even covering your eyes and wearing sunglasses had little effect...
Britain's Nuclear Weapons - British Nuclear Testing
It all smacks of Maralinga. I see that the British Nuclear Veterans have similar problems...
BNTVA: Home Page
Crazy cold war days...
Glider
Captain
I beleive that even today the warheads on British Nuclear Missiles are designed in the UK.
Hello Glider,
But the only nuclear warhead missiles that England has are Polaris, right?
Regards
Kruska
Glider
Captain
No we have Trident IID5 missiles in our Ballistic Subs. Work has started on the plans to replace these submarines and Missiles, it will take time, but we will get there.
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syscom3
Pacific Historian
Dont you guys use the W-88 nuke warhead?
Glider
Captain
I don't think so. The British nuclear warheads have variable yeilds which I don't think the US ones have. They were designed at Aldermaston and are an improvement on the US W-76 warheads.
Hello Glider,
Off course Trident, silly me must have had a blackout, sorry. But it is based on the Polaris ( Lockheed Martin Space Systems) where GB has agreed to contributed with 5%? So it would only be the warhead that is a British development right?
So is Britain able to develop/build these warheads and the missile system by themselfs or are they just involved as purchasers with some British amendments through a 5% investment? similar to the F-35 program.
As for the bombs the entire development was British, using the 175 WE, 177 A and B bombs which I think have been removed from service.
Regards
Kruska
Off course Trident, silly me must have had a blackout, sorry. But it is based on the Polaris ( Lockheed Martin Space Systems) where GB has agreed to contributed with 5%? So it would only be the warhead that is a British development right?
So is Britain able to develop/build these warheads and the missile system by themselfs or are they just involved as purchasers with some British amendments through a 5% investment? similar to the F-35 program.
As for the bombs the entire development was British, using the 175 WE, 177 A and B bombs which I think have been removed from service.
Regards
Kruska
Glider
Captain
The missiles are American but the Warheads are designed and built in the UK.
Trident is very different to Polaris
Trident is very different to Polaris
On the subject of nuclear warheads; the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates to promote the idea that many of their existing warheads cannot be relied upon and hence it is 'vital to national security'* that the idle weapons developers be given billions to replace these largely redundant weapons. Scientific American recently had an article on the subject.
According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...
Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes
* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...
JL
According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...
Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes
* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...
JL
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syscom3
Pacific Historian
On the subject of nuclear warheads; the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates to promote the idea that many of their existing warheads cannot be relied upon and hence it is 'vital to national security'* that the idle weapons developers be given billions to replace these largely redundant weapons. Scientific American recently had an article on the subject.
According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...
Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes
* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...
JL
And your point is what?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
On the subject of nuclear warheads; the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates to promote the idea that many of their existing warheads cannot be relied upon and hence it is 'vital to national security'* that the idle weapons developers be given billions to replace these largely redundant weapons. Scientific American recently had an article on the subject.
According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...
Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes
* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...
JL
First off I'd like to see a reference of this because it sound like something between a poor 9-11 conspiracy theory and the "X" files. Second with regards to your "the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates," well I work as a defence contractor and could tell you first hand that your implication of contractor/ government collusion is as whacked out as your post. In the future I would recommend a reference to a post like that, it will make you look less silly......
Here's your reference from the left-wing liberal rag...
: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=new-nukes-are-good-nukes
...and as for 'contracter/government collusion' , being the paranoid fantasy of whacked conspiracy theorists, all I can say is that anyone who has not noticed the shenanigans of the defence industry lobbyists and the politicians over the years is either naive, blind, or both...
That you feel tarred by the admittedly broad stroke of my brush is unfortunate, and for that I apologize, but the fact remains that corruption inevitably follows money, and the billions of dollars at stake in the arms industry ensures that shady business is not a rarity, the 'fair and balanced' swill of the Fox News crowd, notwithstanding.
But hey...What do I care? You're the ones who are gonna have to pay for it, not me
JL
: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=new-nukes-are-good-nukes
...and as for 'contracter/government collusion' , being the paranoid fantasy of whacked conspiracy theorists, all I can say is that anyone who has not noticed the shenanigans of the defence industry lobbyists and the politicians over the years is either naive, blind, or both...
That you feel tarred by the admittedly broad stroke of my brush is unfortunate, and for that I apologize, but the fact remains that corruption inevitably follows money, and the billions of dollars at stake in the arms industry ensures that shady business is not a rarity, the 'fair and balanced' swill of the Fox News crowd, notwithstanding.
But hey...What do I care? You're the ones who are gonna have to pay for it, not me
JL
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Here's your reference from the left-wing liberal rag...
: Special Report: New Nukes Are Good Nukes?: Scientific American
...and as for 'contracter/government collusion' , being the paranoid fantasy of whacked conspiracy theorists, all I can say is that anyone who has not noticed the shenanigans of the defence industry lobbyists and the politicians over the years is either naive, blind, or both...
That you feel tarred by the admittedly broad stroke of my brush is unfortunate, and for that I apologize, but the fact remains that corruption inevitably follows money, and the billions of dollars at stake in the arms industry ensures that shady business is not a rarity, the 'fair and balanced' swill of the Fox News crowd, notwithstanding.
But hey...What do I care? You're the ones who are gonna have to pay for it, not me
JL
No one cannot deny that there has been corruption and collusion in the US defence industry, (probably a lot less than seen in other parts of the world) but even as we hear reports of corruption today, those situations are so far and few because of all the crap US contractors now have to go through to get a government contract (I guess, or I should say I know the system in Canada is a lot different, I lived there for 5 years and worked in your defense industry - but then again your DoD is a fraction of the size of ours so all the nasty stuff is easy to keep in check) but in essence very well said for someone who doesn't live in the US and probably never worked on a major US defense contract - but then again after hearing these comments and your initial post, are you a possible NDP member?
Even as you post information of this "green" nuclear weapon, to try to portray the US defence industry being run by some crazed "neo-cons" sounds like a line from an 1980s anti-nuke protester. I thought by some of your previous posts you were a lot more intelligent than that!
But going back to the beginning of all this - what did your little snippet have to do with the purpose of this thread - are you trying to get into a pissing contest with some of us "south of the border"????
I take it that Mr Goodwin is serious?
Special Report: New Nukes Are Good Nukes?: Scientific American
Livermore's Goodwin says. "We will be able to eliminate an entire process that produces 96 percent radiological toxic waste that has to be buried and replace it with nontoxic waste that is 100 percent recyclable."
"You replace it with something that quite honestly you could eat and be healthy."
Special Report: New Nukes Are Good Nukes?: Scientific American
Livermore's Goodwin says. "We will be able to eliminate an entire process that produces 96 percent radiological toxic waste that has to be buried and replace it with nontoxic waste that is 100 percent recyclable."
"You replace it with something that quite honestly you could eat and be healthy."
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
He's from Northern California - nothing is serious there!
drgondog
Major
Here's your reference from the left-wing liberal rag...
: Special Report: New Nukes Are Good Nukes?: Scientific American
...and as for 'contracter/government collusion' , being the paranoid fantasy of whacked conspiracy theorists, all I can say is that anyone who has not noticed the shenanigans of the defence industry lobbyists and the politicians over the years is either naive, blind, or both...
That you feel tarred by the admittedly broad stroke of my brush is unfortunate, and for that I apologize, but the fact remains that corruption inevitably follows money, and the billions of dollars at stake in the arms industry ensures that shady business is not a rarity, the 'fair and balanced' swill of the Fox News crowd, notwithstanding.
But hey...What do I care? You're the ones who are gonna have to pay for it, not me
JL
Bonehead
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I think that sums it up Bill.....
drgondog
Major
On the subject of nuclear warheads; the neo-con nuts in the US have joined with their defence contracter bedmates to promote the idea that many of their existing warheads cannot be relied upon and hence it is 'vital to national security'* that the idle weapons developers be given billions to replace these largely redundant weapons. Scientific American recently had an article on the subject.
According to the promoters of this program, all mankind shall derive great benefit from these new thermonuclear bombs. They're promising to make them 'greener'...
Yup, environmentally-friendly 'Green' nukes
* i.e., the rich folks need to replace those shabby little 10,000 sq.ft. summer 'cottages' with something a little less cramped ...
JL
Jez curious - what is your definition of
fascist
communist
neo con
you are pretty good at labels without context - I really am curious about your notion of 'objective reporting'.. Guardian? Kos? Fox News?
Maybe contrast your favorite 'fair and balanced' with say Hannity and Combs or the Economist?
