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syscom3 said:The F4 Phantom was left off the list? Yikes!!!!
plan_D said:English Electric Lightning. It was 'the' interceptor of it's day ...and it's day was one long day!
plan_D said:The idea of the Lightning was not to get into dogfights. In any case, the Lightning was no slouch and could out-pace anything in it's day. It could even out-run a few of the missiles of it's day.
Combat record or not, the Lightning intercepted (while not shooting down) Soviet aircraft on a daily basis. And it proved that it was able to get to the opponent before any other aircraft. All those other aircraft would have never been able as a first-line of defence, they just weren't quick enough.
True - but the only measurements we have is operational performance (as you showed) and combat. I think the glory goes to "killer."plan_D said:If we're basing this off combat record alone - then many, many aircraft have to be cast aside because they never had the oppurtunity. That's not basing off the aircraft's design, only it's oppurtunity.
syscom3 said:The F4 has to be the best jet aircraft since 1946.
It saw combat in the Middle East and Vietnam (and Gulf War 1?).
It was used by dozens of nations
It was both a land based and shipbased fighter
It was used in the following roles: fighter, ground attack, interceptor, recon and "wild weasel".
It was in production for quite some time and thousands were built.
It was a front line aircraft for nearly three decades.
The F-15 is second with something like a 105 to 0 kill ratio
the lancaster kicks ass said:The F-15 is second with something like a 105 to 0 kill ratio
not quite, israil's lost atleast one........
syscom3 said:I thought almost all of Israels kills in the 80's and 90's were from the F16.
I could be wrong.