The Greatest Fighter Pilot in WW II???

[lesofprimus]

The kids here are lucky i dont post the rest of the pics i have from this scenario.... His brain is sittin on the seat..... For those u have seen such things, the pics arent so bad.... But virgin eyes cant handle it.. LOL

 

[evangilder]

I guess when you have seen things up close and personal, you get cold to it. I took one look and wondered what the caliber of weapon that hit the perp was. Looks messy like a .50 cal, but the windshield holes don't look big enough for .50. It's been awhile, so my ballistic expertise is rusty. Plus I was just a comm guy in the AF, but I was working on "have-quick" radios in the early 80s, when there were only a few of us that knew them. Hence, we got to fly everywhere they needed have quicks. I can tell you, they weren't in nice, fun places. Because of that, I got to know way more about the world than I cared to. But you know.

I don't regret it, and am glad that there are guys today like Adler to carry on the torch. Dan and I raise a toast to you.

 

[lesofprimus]

Cheers.....

The car was stopped by a SAW gunner and M-16's....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeah we have some pics that were taken on one of our air assaults over here in Iraq and they are just out right plain nasty. I wont post them but the damage was done by our M-60D's that we use as door guns on our Blackhawks and when I saw the bodies I will admit it I almost threw up. War is deffinatly nasty. We picked up a soldier a couple of months ago who was hit by a road side bomb, he was alive and going to make a full recovery but his arm looked like it had gone through a meat grinder. These things I will never forget.

 

[evangilder]

Ah, the SAW, now there is an effective killing machine! Lead rain.

 

[Darkstalker]

I agree with lesofprimus
There are many other pilots that should be here like Galland, Marseille or Nowotny

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Well ofcourse there are others. Galland, Marseille, and Nowotny were great and there were many others that were just as great or better but you cant list every great ace there are too many.

 

[lesofprimus]

The Poll was not done accuratly.. There should have been more pilots listed...

I think that either Kozhedub or Marseille was the best..... Their competition makes them rank higher than Hartmann in my world...

 

[cheddar cheese]

I say either Pokryshin or McGuire.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I would say either Erich Hartmann oder Marsielle but Hartmann is still my fav of all times.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

i'm a little supprised no-one's mentioned jonnie johnson??

 

[lesofprimus]

Im not.. While a great pilot in his own right, he was nowhere near the Greatest of All Time...

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

worth a mention though, all of his 38 kills were against single engined fighters, making him the highest scoring ace of WWII, and in 515 sorties, he was holed only once...............

 

[lesofprimus]

making him the highest scoring ace of WWII

Ummmmmm I think u made a mistake there.....

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

if you make a list of the aces with their kills broken down to plane types, he has the highest number of single engined fighter kills with 100% of hill kills coming from single engined planes, that's how it was done on one show, i know he doesn't have the highest number of kills, not by a long shot, but he has the kills where it counts............

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeah but others like Hartmann, Marsielle, Barr and even other allied aces had shot down more single engine aircraft. I dont think you can go by percentage. A kill is a kill.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

Yeah but others like Hartmann, Marsielle, Barr and even other allied aces had shot down more single engine aircraft

not according to the stats, anywho, i've got some logs to shift and some new British Mk.4 assult boots to try out, see you soon......

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Yeap talk to you later.

 

[lesofprimus]

So ur saying that Erich Hartmann scrored less than 38 Fighter Kills???

Marseille had more that 38 fighters destroyed.... So did Kozhedub....

Gerhard Barkhorn shot down over 40 Fighters from 5/16/42 - 7/22/42....

Dont know where u got that info... Unless ur referring to the fact that 100% of his kills were fighters...

all of his 38 kills were against single engined fighters, making him the highest scoring ace of WWII.

That is not a requirement when it comes to highest scoring ace... U know better than that Lanc... Did u just wake up or something??? Not thinking level???

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I did not say that. I am argueing is post too.