the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
i dunno, i kinda liked it............
The High Yo-Yo
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
the lancaster kicks ass said:
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
well it's better than you writing a lonely hearts colum for me
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
"wanted, a large 4 engined beauty to help launch my deep penitration weapon"
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
the lancaster kicks ass said:
"And I do put my weapon on target."
wmaxt
Staff Sergeant
NAVAIR,
Those pilot you interviewed, if they transitioned into P-51s they may have never flown the late Js and L models. Did they mention model and what exactly was their preference for the P-51? I've read a number of accounts where the P-38 (at least the Ls) was prefered at all altitudes, (Art Heiden for example). So far the main gripe I've heard was engines (bad fuel incorrect operating proceedures), lack of heat and dive flaps in the early models, granted, at 60deg below thats a pretty big deal.
Just curious, I'd like to know all about the P-38 in particular and WWII aircraft in gereral.
wmaxt
Those pilot you interviewed, if they transitioned into P-51s they may have never flown the late Js and L models. Did they mention model and what exactly was their preference for the P-51? I've read a number of accounts where the P-38 (at least the Ls) was prefered at all altitudes, (Art Heiden for example). So far the main gripe I've heard was engines (bad fuel incorrect operating proceedures), lack of heat and dive flaps in the early models, granted, at 60deg below thats a pretty big deal.
Just curious, I'd like to know all about the P-38 in particular and WWII aircraft in gereral.
wmaxt
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
why 1941??
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
are we talking about my lonely hearts column here or seriously?
No, you've completely missed the target.
The original statement was an extremely vague crack at you being off target (target being women - keep with the programme). I don't know how, or why I'd include a serious statement about the Bomber Command being 5 miles off target, when the thread is about a fighter manoevre. But then, anythin' goes on here.
The original statement was an extremely vague crack at you being off target (target being women - keep with the programme). I don't know how, or why I'd include a serious statement about the Bomber Command being 5 miles off target, when the thread is about a fighter manoevre. But then, anythin' goes on here.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
so, you were trying to say that i'd miss??
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
you took your time doing it.......
KraziKanuK
Banned
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- Jan 26, 2005
pD and Lanc Where are their hands and what are they doing?
Where are their hands and what are they doing?
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
- 19,937
- Dec 20, 2003
typing
KraziKanuK
Banned
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- Jan 26, 2005
Looks like some
on the one eyed snake, or for some that would be the one eyed worm.the lancaster kicks ass said:typing
"Yo Yo's" are closure control maneuvers taught in Basic Fighter Maneuvers. The High Yo-Yo is used when you have excess closure, and you roll into lag and go up (controlling closure by transferring kinetic energy into Potential energy), then over-rotate and place lift vector in lead and pull inside the bandit using the additional vertical altitude as turning room to turn "inside" the bandit.
A Low Yo-Yo is used to generate closure...when trapped in lag, you over-rotate and place the lift vector in lead, predicting WHERE the bandit is going and using Gods-G, aka gravity, to help increase your turn radius, maintain your speed, and help you use the vertical turning room to turn "inside" the bandit.
Realize both of these can be countered by an aware bandit who can re-orient his lift vector and deny you the opportunity to take advantage of the vertical.
Obviously roll-rate plays a part in this, but more importantly is the early recognition of the problem and applying the correct maneuver to the situation.
Cheers!
Dobs
A Low Yo-Yo is used to generate closure...when trapped in lag, you over-rotate and place the lift vector in lead, predicting WHERE the bandit is going and using Gods-G, aka gravity, to help increase your turn radius, maintain your speed, and help you use the vertical turning room to turn "inside" the bandit.
Realize both of these can be countered by an aware bandit who can re-orient his lift vector and deny you the opportunity to take advantage of the vertical.
Obviously roll-rate plays a part in this, but more importantly is the early recognition of the problem and applying the correct maneuver to the situation.
Cheers!
Dobs
