There are any Bf 109 K-4 in museums?

[stona]

Steve, the image in post #5 has been altered (photoshopped) from what is in the Green book.

Thanks. Yes,the FE/TE number has been removed at the very least.
Cheers
Steve

 

[A4K]

Yep, retouched (ie, airbrushed out) I'd say. Wonder why? (That book was published in 1998, btw.)

Here's what I have on the Bf 109K-4. Let me know if ya's need close ups of anything.
Pics 1-2: Messerschmitt Bf.109, by V. Romanov (M-Hobby publication)
Pics 3-8: German Aircraft Interiors 1935-1945, by Kenneth A. Merrick (Monogram publications)

 

[razor1uk]

Mmmm, a nympho-of-info-maniacs wealth of info pics -
So to sum up, an F - G model that was returned to be rebuilt/recycled as needed, was if refurbished to K equivelent standard became a G10/G14 depending on pre-existing kit and required the fitment upgrades.
K's were made as such 'brand new' (with more new than the amount of recycled/re-checked parts) in the factories.
And not that many were in reality were made, the production of them was only just being sorted out initiated (so it seems), and so, even less of those actually reached units due to the logistical nightmares within Germany

 

[Denniss]

You couldn't turn an F into a G or K. All K were new-built as well as all G-10 and G-14. You could refurbish an older G-series airframe and upgrade it with all the latest stuff to become equivalent to a G-10 or G-14 (depending on engine).
There's still an old myth claiming most/all G-10 were refurbished older airframes, stemming from the initial G-10 production series using airframes diverted from G-14 production.

 

[davebender]

At the end of the war there was not much interest in the Bf109 which was after all an old airframe with a well known engine.

There must have been some interest in the DB605D engine which entered service during October 1944.

 

[stona]

The allies were far more interested in the jet and rocket and electronic technology. Just look at a list of " the aicraft on HMS Reaper. They had some piston engined stuff like the Do335s. I guess they didn't think they had much to learn from German piston engines.
Such was the lack of interest from the British that of all the 233 Air Ministry numbers assigned to foreign aircraft only one was assigned to a Bf109. This was a G-14 ( W.Nr.413601 ) and it doesn't seem to have made it to Britain. Compare that with 23 Me163s
Cheers
Steve

 

[Jenisch]

The Allies also had captured many 109s. Their engineers were probably aware it's development potential was not great.

 

[stona]

You couldn't turn an F into a G or K. All K were new-built as well as all G-10 and G-14. You could refurbish an older G-series airframe and upgrade it with all the latest stuff to become equivalent to a G-10 or G-14 (depending on engine).
There's still an old myth claiming most/all G-10 were refurbished older airframes, stemming from the initial G-10 production series using airframes diverted from G-14 production.

Exactly. That myth won't die! Another reflection of the power of the internet.
Steve

 

[stona]

The Allies also had captured many 109s. Their engineers were probably aware it's development potential was not great.

Exactly....again.
It was a mid 1930s design,long in tooth and going nowhere. The British were already bolting massively powerful engines onto their old Spitfire and had nothing much to learn from a similar German development.
Steve

 

[Arsenal45]

Hello all!

Please check our website! We are working on a project to rebuild a latewar Bf109 K4 from original parts and newmade components. It is the serial number 334253 that took place in the famous "Sonderkommando Elbe"..

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Lots of parts are here, yet. But we very enjoy any part-offers to get the aircraft complete one day.

Thanks,

Gregor