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Another option if things are desperate,. Avro Lincoln, first prototype first flight 9 June 1944, first production example in December 1944, all up 46 mark I and 10 mark II built to end May 1945, did not have the B-29 altitude performance but did have a longer range than the Lancaster.
It was politically unconscionable to NOT use a USAAF bomber!
You are all forgetting just how much better looking the B-29 is.
Not only better looking, but a far better war fighting machine in all respects.
The Thin Man (gun type) was a British design but for what ever reason (I can't remember the exact reason now)
Eh?
None of those three are tactical bombers. So what are they then?
What term would you use to describe nocturnal area bombing *other* than strategic?
I'm not getting into the rights or wrongs of the area bombing campaign, but cities like Hamburg suffered very much the same fate as those in Japan.
And yes, it was more costly in aircrew and machines. But its intent was pretty much indivisible from the rationale for using the A-bomb. The area bombing campaign delivered a strategic effect. Maybe not to the extent that Harris imagined, but a very sizeable one, never the less.
That is pure hindsight, your 300 bombers wouldnt set fire to 16 square miles of any European or US Capital, and would suffer such losses that it was never repeated again. Tokyo was made largely of wood how many capital cities were made of wood? You mean the USA's most expensive weapon programme was to set fire to wood, that is true genius, however I believe there was more to it. May I respectfully point out that burning the enemy's wooden capital didnt end the war.They were de facto medium bombers - they lacked the range and bomb load to be strategic weapons and even an RAF maximum effort couldn't smash a city
True Strategic effect is 300 bombers going after the enemies capital, and in one raid, burning out 16 square miles of the city, killing 125,000 people and making a million homeless for just 14 losses, many of these from the huge thermal updrafts.
By fall 1945, there USAAF had pretty much run out of targets in Japan and was throwing bombers at ever smaller towns and literally wiping them out.
Which ignores a number of significant differences between the targets in Japan and Germany.They were de facto medium bombers - they lacked the range and bomb load to be strategic weapons and even an RAF maximum effort couldn't smash a city
True Strategic effect is 300 bombers going after the enemies capital, and in one raid, burning out 16 square miles of the city, killing 125,000 people and making a million homeless for just 14 losses, many of these from the huge thermal updrafts.
By fall 1945, there USAAF had pretty much run out of targets in Japan and was throwing bombers at ever smaller towns and literally wiping them out.
Even within that description which is largely true, cities had other differences. Old cities especially ports like Hamburg had lots of buildings close together, while more modern cities like Berlin had large boulevards and park spaces. An attack which worked well on Hamburg didnt on Berlin.Which ignores a number of significant differences between the targets in Japan and Germany.
Buildings in Europe were largely constructed of brick and stone with solid roofs.
They were de facto medium bombers - they lacked the range and bomb load to be strategic weapons and even an RAF maximum effort couldn't smash a city
True Strategic effect is 300 bombers going after the enemies capital, and in one raid, burning out 16 square miles of the city, killing 125,000 people and making a million homeless for just 14 losses, many of these from the huge thermal updrafts.
By fall 1945, there USAAF had pretty much run out of targets in Japan and was throwing bombers at ever smaller towns and literally wiping them out.
The spec for the B-29 called for a very long range bomber with a range of c5,000 miles with a 2,000lb bomb load.They were de facto medium bombers - they lacked the range ......
'De facto' medium bombers....They were de facto medium bombers - they lacked the range and bomb load to be strategic weapons and even an RAF maximum effort couldn't smash a city
The spec for the B-29 called for a very long range bomber with a range of c5,000 miles with a 2,000lb bomb load.
But the distances involved in the European airwar were far less than the Pacific where the B-29 was eventually used. So why design and build a bomber for something that wasn't required?
London to Berlin - 600 miles
Marianas to Tokyo - 1,500 miles
Until thoughts turned to sending bombers to the Pacific in 1944 the RAF didn't need a bomber with the range of a B-29.
Does anyone know the "climb to cockpit" time for the Sterling?
It usually involved a game of snooker in the billiard room so it was quite a while.Does anyone know the "climb to cockpit" time for the Sterling?
It usually involved a game of snooker in the billiard room so it was quite a while.
I'd also suggest that at the time that Britain was designing their medium/heavy bombers, continental Europe was it's main priority.
The Pacific and it's Commonwealth would be a secondary concern and of no consequence if Britain was not able to defend and save the UK.
The Stirling was supposed to be able to carry people and cargo as well as bombs, for work in the commonwealth but not a Pacific theatre where Japan had taken a huge amount of territory. Designed to do everything, it was pretty useless at anything.I'd also suggest that at the time that Britain was designing their medium/heavy bombers, continental Europe was it's main priority.
The Pacific and it's Commonwealth would be a secondary concern and of no consequence if Britain was not able to defend and save the UK.
Other sources may beg to differ on some of that?The Stirling was supposed to be able to carry people and cargo as well as bombs, for work in the commonwealth but not a Pacific theatre where Japan had taken a huge amount of territory. Designed to do everything, it was pretty useless at anything.