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Major General
you said it
What was the worst Aircraft of WWII?
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you said it
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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- Dec 20, 2003
no, you did.................
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Hot Space
Tech Sergeant
He's behind you 
Hot Space
Hot Space
cheddar cheese
Major General
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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IIIIIIIIII..................don't get it?
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Hot Space
Tech Sergeant
the lancaster kicks ass said:
Panto
Hot Space
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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Hot Space said:the lancaster kicks ass said:
Panto
Hot Space
Irealise it's panto, i just didn't get why he said "he's behind you"?
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Hot Space
Tech Sergeant
That's what they say when the Villan is behind the Good Guy
Hot Space
Hot Space
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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i know that!!!!!!!!!!!, i just wanna know why he said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
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- Feb 19, 2004
The Poles had a fighter called a PZL P.11 with a gull-wing design that they used against the Germans during the invasion - it was a pretty crappy fighter so the poles designed another fighter but because it was a 'secret' operation the only prototype was shot down by Polish AA guns cos they'd never seen one before and assumed it must have been a kraut - that has to rate among the silliest things to happen during wartime!
My point being the P.11 has to be one of the worst planes as with the Russian I-153 biplane (early design leading to Polikarpov I-16 a much better fighter!)
My point being the P.11 has to be one of the worst planes as with the Russian I-153 biplane (early design leading to Polikarpov I-16 a much better fighter!)
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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that's nothing, i was reading an account about a HE 111 that was forced to land in a brittish airfield (don't know why) and before the ground crew could shoot at it, they had to radio in for permission, however by the time they had got permission, the HE 111 had turned around and had taken off again!!!!!!!!
bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
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- Feb 19, 2004
That IS weird! i suppose if they had just shot at it they could've killed airmen with vital information that they could have 'interrogated' them for - plus if they shot up a big plane like that on the runway and blew it up - it would block the runway off and so emergency fighter scrambling would've been impossible...i would guess thats the reason..anyone else with any ideas?
cheddar cheese
Major General
maybe the bloke in charge of the airfield was a close friend of the he-111 pilot and let hm go 8)
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bronzewhaler82 said:
The I-153 was built after the I-16 and a more advanced aircraft. If FM are anything close in IL-2FB Sim, then I can tell you I-153 can do circles around the I-16 Rata.
Crazy
Senior Airman
The I-153 can do circles around a lot of the early planes 8) (Early=1939)
bronzewhaler82
Senior Airman
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- Feb 19, 2004
Its true Biplanes are more manouvarable than monoplanes but that doesn't mean they are better - i'm sure an I-16 could make short work of the I-153
kiwimac
Staff Sergeant
I-153
Technical details
Constructed by: Nikolai N Polikarpov.
Type: Single-seat fighter (15bis and 153 fighter-bomber).
Powerplant: (I-15) one 700 hp Svetsov M-25 (Wright "Cyclone"), (I-15bis) 750 hp M-25B, (I-153) 1 000 hp M-63, all nine-cylinder radial piston engines.
Dimensions: Span 9,13 m, (I-15bis) 10,21 m, (I-153) 10 m; length 6,29 m, (I-15bis) 6,33 m, (I-153) 6,17 m; height 2,92 m, (I-15bis) 3,0 m, (I-153) 2,82 m.
Weights: Empty 1 180 kg, (I-15bis) 1 305 kg, (I-153) 1 440 kg; maximum loaded 1 370-1 422 kg, (I-15bis) 1 900 kg, (I-153) 2 010 kg.
Performance: Maximum speed 360 km/h, (I-15bis) 370 km/h, (I-153) 430 km/h;
rate of climb some 765 m/min;
service ceiling 10 000 m, (I-15bis) 8 000 m, (I-153) 10 700 m;
range 720 km, (I-15bis) 450 km, (I-153) 480 km.
Armament: (I-15) four (sometimes two) 7,62 mm DA or SjKAS machine-guns in the fuselage; (I-15bis) same as the I-15 plus two 50 kg bombs or six RS-82 rocket projectiles; (I-153) same as the I-15 but with 75 kg bombs.
History: First flight (TsKB) October 1933, entered service in 1934, (I-15bis) entered service in 1937, (I-153) entered service in 1939.
Used by: Finland (captured Soviet aircraft), China, Soviet Union, Spain (both sides).
I-16
Technical details
Specifications (I-16 Type 24):
Engine: One 1,000-hp M-62 radial piston engine
Weight: Empty 1,475. kilos.,
Max Takeoff 2,060. kilos.
Wing Span: 8.9 ms.
Length: 6.088 ms.
Height: 2.17 ms.
Performance:
Maximum Speed at 3,048 ms: 490 Kph
Ceiling: 9,470 ms
Range: 600 kilometres
Armament:
Four 7.62-mm (0.3-inch) Sh KAS machine guns (Two in forward fuselage; two in wings)
Up to 200 kilos of bombs or six RS-82 rockets on underwing racks
Although the I-16 was faster, it was both less manouevrable and more unstable in flight. The I-153 seems to have carried the heavier armament so all things being equal perhaps the I-153 would have come out on top.
my 0.23c
Kiwimac
Technical details
Constructed by: Nikolai N Polikarpov.
Type: Single-seat fighter (15bis and 153 fighter-bomber).
Powerplant: (I-15) one 700 hp Svetsov M-25 (Wright "Cyclone"), (I-15bis) 750 hp M-25B, (I-153) 1 000 hp M-63, all nine-cylinder radial piston engines.
Dimensions: Span 9,13 m, (I-15bis) 10,21 m, (I-153) 10 m; length 6,29 m, (I-15bis) 6,33 m, (I-153) 6,17 m; height 2,92 m, (I-15bis) 3,0 m, (I-153) 2,82 m.
Weights: Empty 1 180 kg, (I-15bis) 1 305 kg, (I-153) 1 440 kg; maximum loaded 1 370-1 422 kg, (I-15bis) 1 900 kg, (I-153) 2 010 kg.
Performance: Maximum speed 360 km/h, (I-15bis) 370 km/h, (I-153) 430 km/h;
rate of climb some 765 m/min;
service ceiling 10 000 m, (I-15bis) 8 000 m, (I-153) 10 700 m;
range 720 km, (I-15bis) 450 km, (I-153) 480 km.
Armament: (I-15) four (sometimes two) 7,62 mm DA or SjKAS machine-guns in the fuselage; (I-15bis) same as the I-15 plus two 50 kg bombs or six RS-82 rocket projectiles; (I-153) same as the I-15 but with 75 kg bombs.
History: First flight (TsKB) October 1933, entered service in 1934, (I-15bis) entered service in 1937, (I-153) entered service in 1939.
Used by: Finland (captured Soviet aircraft), China, Soviet Union, Spain (both sides).
I-16
Technical details
Specifications (I-16 Type 24):
Engine: One 1,000-hp M-62 radial piston engine
Weight: Empty 1,475. kilos.,
Max Takeoff 2,060. kilos.
Wing Span: 8.9 ms.
Length: 6.088 ms.
Height: 2.17 ms.
Performance:
Maximum Speed at 3,048 ms: 490 Kph
Ceiling: 9,470 ms
Range: 600 kilometres
Armament:
Four 7.62-mm (0.3-inch) Sh KAS machine guns (Two in forward fuselage; two in wings)
Up to 200 kilos of bombs or six RS-82 rockets on underwing racks
Although the I-16 was faster, it was both less manouevrable and more unstable in flight. The I-153 seems to have carried the heavier armament so all things being equal perhaps the I-153 would have come out on top.
my 0.23c
Kiwimac
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Major General
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