Who is the best actor in a War Movie?

James Pickering · Jan 5, 2006

reddragon said:
I also thought Gary Cole did a wonderful job as George Armstrong Custer and David Strathairn was very good as Capt. William F. Benteen in Son of the Morning Star (the Indian Wars count too, don't they)

I agree -- especially David Strathairn. I am/was a member of The Custer Battlefield Museum Association -- we hold our annual meeting at the Little Big Horn (LBH) battlefield site each June 25th anniversary. Several of our members were extras in the film. Although some of the members are somewhat critical of this movie, I believe the consensus is that it is a faithful depiction of Custer and the LBH campaign -- I certainly think so. IMO an excfellent movie that is quite historically correct.

Custer Battlefield Museum Association: http://www.cbhma.org/

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 5, 2006

cheddar cheese said:
the lancaster kicks ass said:

Keep it in. Hell it means it wont be classified U and end up as a 15 or something but they better keep it

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i hope they keep it too but you know what it's like with all this political correctness crap..........

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Yeah...A viable solution could be changing it to negro. Thats just the spanish word for black, and has a crafty double meaning

yeah but then i'd be forced to tell everyone in the cinema why that's wrong, and really piss 'em off

James Pickering · Jan 5, 2006

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Saving Privat Ryan did have some great actors. in it. I like the guy (cant remember who played him) who played the First Seargent. I think he did a good job portraying how a First Seargent acts in a real unit.

From a real-life ex First Sergeant ..... not bad!

Just a point of interest, the correct spelling is sergeant

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 5, 2006

you mean the tubby one?

James Pickering · Jan 5, 2006

Roger Livesey in The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp.

IMO, a great movie in its own right that also highlights the differences and relationships between the British Army "old guard' (exemplified by the Home Guard) and the regular British Army of WW2.

Review: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036112/

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

James Pickering said:
I personally think that "Battleground" (1949, Directed by William A. Wellman) is the best depiction of American GIs in combat ever. It graphically tells the story of a US 101st Airborne squad trapped in the besieged city of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge. I think the dialogue, and especially the use of M1 (Garand) rifles, is very realistic. It is a gritty film that depicts very well the way combat soldiers acted and talked. I think it is commendable that every passage of conversation is not laced with the "F" word as is the case with many recent movies. That is not the way GIs in general talked in combat during WW2 and Korea as I remember it-- sure enough the conversation got salty at times and there were some uses of "F" word profanity too (but not in public and definitley not in the presence of females) -- but not to the extent it is used in some recent movies -- that kind of detracts from those films for me -- and also for my acquaintenances who are combat veterans of WW2 and Korea (see below).

We have a group of seven WW2/Korea combat veterans who meet for lunch once each month so we can swap war stories and cement our camaraderie. The youngest is aged 73 and the oldest 92 (USMC "Gunner" Kenton -- I have posted his story elsewhere) -- I am 77. We unanimously voted "Battleground" as our favorite (and most realistic) US combat film. Non of us are prudes -- in fact we are a salty bunch who have lived life to the hilt -- but we all agree that the gratuitous and constant use of the "F" word in many recent WW2/Korea movies does not reflect the way we talked during our military service.

Funny you should say that but the word Fuck now is used about every other word in the military. It means good things and bad things. It means just about anything. It is actually quite funny when I am at home I speak completly different than I do at the hanger or when I was in Iraq with the guys. Fuck is generally accepted now as a normal every day word in the military.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

James Pickering said:
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

Saving Privat Ryan did have some great actors. in it. I like the guy (cant remember who played him) who played the First Seargent. I think he did a good job portraying how a First Seargent acts in a real unit.

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From a real-life ex First Sergeant ..... not bad!

Just a point of interest, the correct spelling is sergeant

I actually know how to spell Sergeant. It was a typo. In fact I happen to be a Sergeant in the US Army.

pbfoot · Jan 8, 2006

Now if you Americans would learn how to pronounce Lieutenant

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

What do you mean Leftenant?

James Pickering · Jan 8, 2006

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
James Pickering said:

I personally think that "Battleground" (1949, Directed by William A. Wellman) is the best depiction of American GIs in combat ever. It graphically tells the story of a US 101st Airborne squad trapped in the besieged city of Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge. I think the dialogue, and especially the use of M1 (Garand) rifles, is very realistic. It is a gritty film that depicts very well the way combat soldiers acted and talked. I think it is commendable that every passage of conversation is not laced with the "F" word as is the case with many recent movies. That is not the way GIs in general talked in combat during WW2 and Korea as I remember it-- sure enough the conversation got salty at times and there were some uses of "F" word profanity too (but not in public and definitley not in the presence of females) -- but not to the extent it is used in some recent movies -- that kind of detracts from those films for me -- and also for my acquaintenances who are combat veterans of WW2 and Korea (see below).

We have a group of seven WW2/Korea combat veterans who meet for lunch once each month so we can swap war stories and cement our camaraderie. The youngest is aged 73 and the oldest 92 (USMC "Gunner" Kenton -- I have posted his story elsewhere) -- I am 77. We unanimously voted "Battleground" as our favorite (and most realistic) US combat film. Non of us are prudes -- in fact we are a salty bunch who have lived life to the hilt -- but we all agree that the gratuitous and constant use of the "F" word in many recent WW2/Korea movies does not reflect the way we talked during our military service.

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Funny you should say that but the word fu*k now is used about every other word in the military. It means good things and bad things. It means just about anything. It is actually quite funny when I am at home I speak completly different than I do at the hanger or when I was in Iraq with the guys. fu*k is generally accepted now as a normal every day word in the military.

My how times have changed. I don't notice that when I use the facilities on the various Military Installations in my retired status, but of course I am not usually in the duty areas. Thanks for the information.

James Pickering · Jan 8, 2006

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
James Pickering said:

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

Saving Privat Ryan did have some great actors. in it. I like the guy (cant remember who played him) who played the First Seargent. I think he did a good job portraying how a First Seargent acts in a real unit.

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From a real-life ex First Sergeant ..... not bad!

Just a point of interest, the correct spelling is sergeant

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I actually know how to spell Sergeant. It was a typo. In fact I happen to be a Sergeant in the US Army.

I understand.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

James Pickering said:
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

James Pickering said:

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:

Saving Privat Ryan did have some great actors. in it. I like the guy (cant remember who played him) who played the First Seargent. I think he did a good job portraying how a First Seargent acts in a real unit.

Click to expand...

From a real-life ex First Sergeant ..... not bad!

Just a point of interest, the correct spelling is sergeant

Click to expand...

I actually know how to spell Sergeant. It was a typo. In fact I happen to be a Sergeant in the US Army.

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I understand.

Oh no worries, I was not angry or anything, just clarrifying.

plan_D · Jan 8, 2006

F*ck is the best word in the English language, it's so versatile.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

It can be used to mean so many things now a days.

James Pickering · Jan 8, 2006

I will only be able to contribute occasionally to this forum in the future. I now have seriuos health problems (particularly prostate cancer) that sap my energies and affect my ability to concentrate. I need to devote most of my time and energy to my family and the accomplishment of a multitude of projects to which I am committed. I have enjoyed my brief participation on this Forum and have learned much from all of you -- thank you for your gracious acceptance. I will contribute from time to time as I am able.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jan 8, 2006

Good Luck James and I wish you the best, I hope you get better and defeat that cancer. I am sure everyone at thist forum suports you in your fight.

Gnomey · Jan 9, 2006

Sorry to hear that James. All the best and may you get better soon.

the lancaster kicks ass · Jan 9, 2006

yes i'm sure we'll all wish you well, and beat this soon, hospital food sucks..........

102first_hussars · Jan 28, 2006

Prostate cancer is amongst the highest remission rated man,but good luck, fight the good fight, and if youre lucky you might get some medisinal weed to get you eating again

reddragon · Jan 30, 2006

James Pickering said:
I agree -- especially David Strathairn. I am/was a member of The Custer Battlefield Museum Association -- we hold our annual meeting at the Little Big Horn (LBH) battlefield site each June 25th anniversary. Several of our members were extras in the film. Although some of the members are somewhat critical of this movie, I believe the consensus is that it is a faithful depiction of Custer and the LBH campaign -- I certainly think so. IMO an excfellent movie that is quite historically correct.

Custer Battlefield Museum Association: http://www.cbhma.org/

I'd love to hear more about it. Hopefully you'll be feeling better soon and can fill me in.

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