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Why is the A6M Zero's lack of armor considered such a critical weakness?
Certainly, the A6M was largely unarmored, meaning that .50 caliber rounds from American fighters could penetrate it easily. However, it is worth noting that most American fighters such as P-51, P-47, F4F, and F6F were not protected against .50 caliber fire either, they were only have armor protection from 0.3 cal gun, so if they were to fight one another, the 0.5 bullet would have penetrated their fuselage just fine, no different from A6M case.
On the other hand, A6M also carry 20 mm cannon. Which mean A6M weapon is also more than capable of shot down american fighter like F4F and F6F with 2-3 hit on target.
Given this, why is the Zero's lack of armor emphasized so heavily when compared to Hellcat and Wildcat?. If both sides possessed weapons capable of penetrating each other's aircraft and inflicting catastrophic damage, what practical difference did the presence or absence of armor make in actual combat?. Why aircraft like Splitfire, P-51 were not considered light armored like Zero?, even though their inlight engine were vulnerable and they aren't protected from 0.5 cal either.
 
In the book Top Guns, edited by Joe Foss, an interesting incident is described. An Admiral had come to visit Guadalcanal, in a PBY. They asked if they could borrow it, and they used it to attack some Japanese ships. A Japanese air attack was under way and when USMC F4F rose to defend against it, one of the pilots noticed that the borrowed PBY was under attack by three Zeros. Desperate to get the enemy fighters off the PBY, he dove and made quick "strafing" style attacks against the Zeros, intending to just scare them off so the PBY could escape. He just sort of sprayed rounds in their direction, rather than lining them up with the gunsight and firing killing bursts. It worked and the three Zeros broke off and left the PBY alone.

It was not until after the war that he discovered he had scored three kills by that action. None of the Zeros exploded, caught fire, or fell apart. But on their way back to Lae, one had suffered a nick in an oil line and the engine failed, another had a hit in a fuel tank ad it ran out of gas, and the third one suffered some engine damage, which caused it to quit on the way home.

It only took three .50 cal rounds, all fired more or less randomly, to effect that damage and cause the loss of all three Zeros. And this presumably was not even the more effective API .50 cal ammo introduced years later.

Contrast this with Johnson's famous P-47 experience in which he was hit with multiple 20MM rounds, followed by an FW-190 literally running out of 7.92MM ammo trying to finish him off.
 
Assuming armor of equal quality so we don't get too bogged down, armor penetration is affected by range, anything else that is in the way (fuselage skin, framing, radios etc) and angle of impact.
American .50s (and soviet 12.7) used very pointy bullets and anything that made them yaw (bullet did not hit at 90 degrees) could seriously degrade penetration. That said a US 50 cal going through an unarmored seat back totally sideways is going really screw up the pilot's day.
Zeros didn't get 13.2mm guns until 1944? they did kill many planes with their 7.7mm guns so armor carried by US fighters was at least somewhat effective.
On the other hand, A6M also carry 20 mm cannon. Which mean A6M weapon is also more than capable of shot down american fighter like F4F and F6F with 2-3 hit on target.
A6Ms used several different 20mm cannon using 2 different cartridges (powder charges) and 3 different ammo capacities. Early A6Ms had 60rpg gun. They didn't get many hits and 2-3 20mm hits could be fatal it was far from being a guarantee. One Spitfire landed but was a constructive total loss after 3 hits from German mine shell all in the rear fuselage. larger/heavier American fighters hit by 20mm shells with 1/4-1/2 the explosive per shell are going to move the needle on the scale. they are going to be screwed up but more of them are going to get their pilots home.
Going to 100rpg increase the chances of hits in combat before running dry.
An American 6 gun fighter is putting out around 75-80 bullets a second.
An early Zero is putting out 30 7.7mm bullets (unsynchronized) and 16 20mm shells per second.

I will also note that many times lack of armor is also shorthand for unprotected fuel tanks without writing it out. 20mm shell were certainly open up a US fuel tank like it was made of cardboard but the 7.7mm while not, even with several hits. American .50 may or may not open up a Japanese tank (spit seam) but several .5in holes in tank often means the Zero does not get back to base without running out of fuel even not counting fire problems.
Now for the 20mm shell to work on the fuel tank it has to actually hit the fuel tank. Exploding several feet away may mean that the tank is hit with several large fragments and more smaller ones. Can the self tanks stand up to it or is it able to seal the leaks?

Going back to the Zero,
The 371st A6M5 got a CO2 system for the 4 wing tanks.
The A6M5b (western designation) got 45mm of BP glass behind the wind screen. They also switched one 7.7mm gun for a 13.2mm gun that was roughly equivalent to the US .50 but the synchronized rate of fire was significantly lower than the wing guns in the US fighters.
The A6M5c got the 13.2mm guns in the wings and took the last 7.7mm gun out of cowl. It also had pilot seat back armor and several bullet resistant panels were mounted behind the pilot's head. If the CO2 was still being fitted it could out a fire but could not stop leaks. Leaking fuel could find a source of ignition.

No plane was bullet proof. But armor and self sealing tanks could shift the scale a noticeable amount. It also improved morale for the allies. A fair number of allied pilots survived long enough to bail out, surviving after bailing out is another story but a number of allied pilots survived to fight another day, some survived two lost aircraft.
 
However, it is worth noting that most American fighters such as P-51, P-47, F4F, and F6F were not protected against .50 caliber fire either, they were only have armor protection from 0.3 cal gun,
Do we have some sources about the armor plates protection level?
When (if at all?) the Zero received the bullet-proof glass/windscreen (protecting from 0.30 fire)? Deflection plates to protect the fuel tanks from the glancing shots?

so if they were to fight one another, the 0.5 bullet would have penetrated their fuselage just fine, no different from A6M case.
Penetrating the fuselage is not a problem for the aircraft on the receiving side unless the bullet hits and incapacitates the pilot, or it starts the fire of the fuel. A hail of 0.50 bullets presents the pilot of the Zero and many of Japanese aircraft with the math that does not favor them.
Fuel tanks were not protected in the Zeros until well into 1944.
 
Do we have some sources about the armor plates protection level?
This is what I can find for example for the P-47.
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Why is the A6M Zero's lack of armor considered such a critical weakness?
Certainly, the A6M was largely unarmored, meaning that .50 caliber rounds from American fighters could penetrate it easily. However, it is worth noting that most American fighters such as P-51, P-47, F4F, and F6F were not protected against .50 caliber fire either, they were only have armor protection from 0.3 cal gun, so if they were to fight one another, the 0.5 bullet would have penetrated their fuselage just fine, no different from A6M case.
On the other hand, A6M also carry 20 mm cannon. Which mean A6M weapon is also more than capable of shot down american fighter like F4F and F6F with 2-3 hit on target.
Given this, why is the Zero's lack of armor emphasized so heavily when compared to Hellcat and Wildcat?. If both sides possessed weapons capable of penetrating each other's aircraft and inflicting catastrophic damage, what practical difference did the presence or absence of armor make in actual combat?. Why aircraft like Splitfire, P-51 were not considered light armored like Zero?, even though their inlight engine were vulnerable and they aren't protected from 0.5 cal either.
It is not accurate. American aircraft were specifically designed to withstand hits from .50 caliber rounds. Their self-sealing fuel tanks were standardized to resist not only penetration (self-seal) but also the hydrodynamic effect (water hammer) produced by .50 caliber AP projectiles. By contrast, contemporary self-sealing tank designs in other nations typically offered protection only against .30 caliber fire, falling well short of the American standard.

Newer U.S. designs incorporated further refinements. The F6F Hellcat, for example, suspended its fuel tanks in a hammock of nonmetallic material that isolated shockwaves and prevented incendiary components detonating nearby from compromising the tank. As for armor plating, it is true that most American armor was not intended to stop .50 caliber AP at close range; however, when accounting for the bulkheads situated in front of the armor plates, .50 caliber rounds still had great difficulty penetrating the cockpits of U.S. Navy fighters. (Further details can be found in the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings article "The Story of the Self-Sealing Tank," February 1946.)

In contrast, Japanese research into protected fuel tanks began relatively late and relied heavily on materials provided by Germany. The IJAAF was the first to adopt self-sealing tanks, but these early versions were only effective against .30 caliber fire. According to a TAIC report, they proved very poor against U.S. .50 caliber hits. Moreover, Japanese fuel tanks had a tendency to dissolve when using fuel produced in Southeast Asia—a problem the Americans had long solved but one that Japanese planners neglected.

American tests revealed that the M1 incendiary round was sufficient to deal with replicas of Japanese fuel tanks, whereas the M8 API round was required to reliably defeat German tanks. As a result, most M8 API ammunition was shipped to the European Theater, while the Pacific Theater continued using the early belt sequence of AP/AP/I/I/T well into 1945. Aces like Gregory Boyington even devised custom belt sequences composed almost entirely of M1 incendiaries.

Later in the war, Japanese tanks saw increased protection. Extra layers of rubber were added, and in some cases carbon tetrachloride was incorporated into internal layers for fire suppression. These enhancements came at the cost of greatly increased weight and reduced fuel capacity, but they did offer improved resistance against M1 incendiaries, making Japanese aircraft noticeably harder to ignite.

The well-known lack of protection on the A6M Zero must be understood within the context of the South Pacific theater. The Japanese often exploited the Zero's exceptional range, but without self-sealing tanks, a single bullet could drain all the fuel, dramatically reducing the chance of survival. The psychological impact of a burning Zero was also enormous for both sides: witnessing a Zero engulfed in flames, with fire trailing thirty feet behind the cockpit as the pilot was cooked inside, was deeply shocking.

Weapon range played an equally critical role. While the Zero's 20 mm cannons were highly effective, their effective range was very short, and most of the time only the 7.7 mm machine guns actually struck the target. Even when 20 mm rounds hit, they often merely caused a U.S. Navy fighter to trail smoke; the aircraft could frequently still return to base. There were documented instances of an F4F absorbing 21 hits from a Zero's 20 mm cannons and survived. Meanwhile, American pilots could engage and destroy a Zero with .50 caliber fire from 400 yards away. Admittedly, there were cases where a Zero absorbed a tremendous number of .50 caliber hits without going down, but the probability of such survival was low. It should be noted, however, that the Zero was built as a carrier fighter and possessed a strong structure in static terms (though not dynamically, as its aileron flutter speed was low). Unlike the Bf 109, I have not seen instances of a Zero's wings snapping off in gun cam footages. But because the Zero lacked cockpit armor and fuel tank protection, its structural strength was rendered largely useless.
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It is not accurate to say otherwise. American aircraft were specifically designed to withstand hits from .50 caliber rounds. Their self-sealing fuel tanks were standardized to resist not only penetration (self-seal) but also the hydrodynamic effect (water hammer) produced by .50 caliber AP projectiles. By contrast, contemporary self-sealing tank designs in other nations typically offered protection only against .30 caliber fire, falling well short of the American standard.
So basically, it not that US plane are bullet proof against 0.5 cal, but their fuel tank can self sealed so they are less likely to burn or run out of fuel if their tank are hit. Do I understand that correctly?.
Btw, how well protected is Splitfire tank?

While the Zero's 20 mm cannons were highly effective, their effective range was very short, and most of the time only the 7.7 mm machine guns actually struck the target. Even when 20 mm rounds hit, they often merely caused a U.S. Navy fighter to trail smoke; the aircraft could frequently still return to base.
This is something a bit confusing to me. Given that 20 mm are heavier, shouldn't they retain their speed better?. Also given that 20 mm round can actually carry explosive, shouldn't they have longer effective range compared to 0.5 cal round which rely entirely on kinematic to penetrate enemy aircraft
 
So basically, it not that US plane are bullet proof against 0.5 cal, but their fuel tank can self sealed so they are less likely to burn or run out of fuel if their tank are hit. Do I understand that correctly?.
Btw, how well protected is Splitfire tank?
"Early attempts of one of our Allies at self-sealing consisted of covering the regular airplane tank with a layer of rubber which in turn was held in place by a layer of doped or painted canvas. If they found these at all satisfactory it was because they had only .30-caliber guns used against them by the Germans." --- "The Story of the Self-Sealing Tank," February 1946
It is not sure if is referring to the early Spitfire tank.

This is something a bit confusing to me. Given that 20 mm are heavier, shouldn't they retain their speed better?. Also given that 20 mm round can actually carry explosive, shouldn't they have longer effective range compared to 0.5 cal round which rely entirely on kinematic to penetrate enemy aircraft
More often than not, it is the opposite. The 20mm aircraft gun tends to have projectile relatively short in ratio to its caliber, added that it has a fuse that makes the tip mostly flat. This causes much larger drag to the 20mm than the sharp-tip 50cals, and the velocity drops drastically over the range. A good example would be the MG-151/20, also early 20mm in USAAF were disliked because that M2/Hispano cannon, which was one of the best 20mm considering ballistic property, had relatively inferior trajectory and velocity compared with 50cals.
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Sure a single 20mm brings more power than 50cals, but still not decesive. In the late war, with USN F4U-1C equipped with 4 x 20mm cannons, sometimes they found it was still not enough to have a one-tap kill against A6M and Ki-84, and still have to land bursts consistently to splash the Japanese plane.

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The Zero only got the armoured windscreen in the A6M5 Otsu (b), late 1944, and back armour on the A5M5 Hei (c) in 1945 (very, very few built).

It got the armoured windscreen before it got the back armour, amazingly enough... Units did rig improvised or kit-supplied back plates, but it was not common or universal.

The lack of pilot back armour throughout 1944, and even early 1945, makes the A6M Zero a complete outlier, even within Japanese fighter types.

The Ki-43 got pilot back armour that was 10-13 mm thick as standard in mid to late 1943.... All Army types had it, as did the N1K1 from the very earliest model.

The Japanese Navy simply refused to learn, and the lack of Zero pilot back armour throughout 1944, on a newly-built type, makes the A6M5 Zero an absolutely freakish outlier among all newly-built 1943-45 fighter types. There may have been tests that found the altered balance introduced a non-linear degradation in handling, but I have yet to hear of any serious explanation for this omission. Jiro Horikoshi makes little mention of this world-unique characteristic in his memoir. It was not unique in 1940, but absolutely unique as the War dragged on.

Even in 1942 plate-less fighters were becoming extremely rare. When you consider the incompressible time investment the pilot is compared to airframes that could be churned out at nearly 10 a day, it is just mind-boggling. They did wear a parachute, contrary to claims they did not, but the plate sure is a big help in getting to use it... That and the persistent bad radios shows the Navy leadership was way more rigid and close-minded than the Army.
 
Why is the A6M Zero's lack of armor considered such a critical weakness?
Certainly, the A6M was largely unarmored, meaning that .50 caliber rounds from American fighters could penetrate it easily. However, it is worth noting that most American fighters such as P-51, P-47, F4F, and F6F were not protected against .50 caliber fire either, they were only have armor protection from 0.3 cal gun, so if they were to fight one another, the 0.5 bullet would have penetrated their fuselage just fine, no different from A6M case.
On the other hand, A6M also carry 20 mm cannon. Which mean A6M weapon is also more than capable of shot down american fighter like F4F and F6F with 2-3 hit on target.
Given this, why is the Zero's lack of armor emphasized so heavily when compared to Hellcat and Wildcat?. If both sides possessed weapons capable of penetrating each other's aircraft and inflicting catastrophic damage, what practical difference did the presence or absence of armor make in actual combat?. Why aircraft like Splitfire, P-51 were not considered light armored like Zero?, even though their inlight engine were vulnerable and they aren't protected from 0.5 cal either.
Hi
For information, the book 'Knights of the Skies - Armour Protection for British Fighting Aeroplanes' by Michael C Fox has a little bit on Japanese armour, extract below:
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With the "crude depictions" sketches mentioned:
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A 1946 USAAF report has the following information:
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I hope that is of use.

Mike
 
This is what I can find for example for the P-47.
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A few things here.
Direct .........................hit.
rarely happened, bullet was going to go through something else before it reached the plate, even in only thin sheet dialuminium. But thin dialuminium could make a bullet tip and not hit at 90 degrees.
Right angle hit.
20-30 degree angle hits offer some extra protection, not a lot but some. This is for a bullet where the angle of impact is in line with bullets axis. If the bullet is tipped, bullet's axis is not in line with the direction of travel penetration goes way down.

US 50 cal vs German, Italian and Japanese army 12.7-13mm ammo.
gun.........................................AP bullet.........................Joules of ME
German 13mm.......................38.5g..................................9700
Italian/Japanase 12.7............35.4................................10,600
US .50 cal M2 AP.....................46...................................17,400
Japanese navy 13mm............52...................................16,200
Japanese type 99-1.............128 HE..............................23,000
At impact the joules of energy will be less but the shorter, light bullets will loose velocity/joules quicker.
US didn't need to armor their planes to withstand US AP ammo, they needed to stop the lower powered Axis types of guns.
Japanese 13mm was used only by AA guns before 1944 and then pretty much by only the Zero as aircraft ammunition (different gun, same ammo).


Problem with Zero's early 20mm cannon was low velocity and poor shape. unless at very short range the time of flight was longer than the 7.7mm ammo so the guns didn't
hit to the same point against moving targets. If the 20mm shell was a dud it didn't penetrate much better than the 7,7mm ammo and if it did go off it was usually before it hit the armor and even a hit on the armor was not a guarantee of making a hole in the armor.
20mm Hispano had about 47,000 joules. Dud or inert rounds had a lot of penetration. British 20mm Hispano AP/incendiary was an HE shell filled with incendiary material and with a hardened steel cap instead of fuse.
 
Hi
Another useful book for info on fuel tank protection is Richard L Dunn's 'Exploding Fuel Tanks - Saga of Technology that changed the course of the Pacific Air War' (first published April 2011, second edition October 2023). However, there should be caveats to this as the author appears to be unaware of the British and French developments during WW1, despite the USAS having the reports on the tanks during that earlier war and being available to researchers. Also he appears not to be totally knowledgeable on the development of British armour for aircraft, which makes his first chapter problematic to some extent (he could have done with reading 'Knights of the Skies' which was published in 2006). Some extracts of interest are:
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Mike
 
Pre war British testing of protected fuel tanks involved dropping them off buildings, the tanks kept failing.

The reported average of 18 to 20 hits of 20 mm cannon to bring down a B-17 is via causing structural failure, that is no fire.

US firing trials at Aberdeen using German 20mm incendiary rounds versus 40% full B-17 fuel tanks showed the chance of causing a fire per hit was 10% at 50 metres dropping to 2% at 2000 metres. Apparently a 13mm round's chance of starting a fire was 40% of the 20 mm.

So the average number of hits to bring down a B-17 (and by implication other 4 engined types) would have been under the 18 to 20 figure, given the ones lost to fires.
 
There's a larger question here, involving the tradeoff study process of designing a new fighter. The customer tells companies what it needs/wants and then it's up to the companies to create something that meets those needs. If the customer demands maneuverability, then weight and wing loading and so forth will become dominant. If they want high speed, then drag and engine power move up the scale. High altitude brings different factors into play, and so on. The Zero's lack of armor and self-sealing tanks weren't goofs, they were legitimate tradeoffs to make the aircraft's design line up with what the customer said they wanted. Adding them would increase the weight and diminish maneuverability. It's the old Survivability equation, where you have to balance Probability of Hit (Ph) and Probability of Kill Given a Hit (Pk/h). My own career was almost exclusively in the Pk/h business, and over and over again the hardening features that would have cut combat losses were made secondary to features that would reduce Ph, and honestly that makes perfect sense. If you can avoid getting hit, then your lack of hardening isn't so much of a player. In the Zero's case, being the most maneuverable dogfighter must have seemed like the best way to avoid taking hits. Once Allied tactics were developed to offset that advantage, it became a much more attractive proposition to do something about surviving the hits that were increasingly likely to be taken. The incremental loss in maneuverability had become less of a factor in the overall survivability equation.

And of course if the customer guesses wrong about what their future needs are going to be, the results can be grim. Or comical - I vividly recall our company's head of technology development calling a meeting of all the young new-hires which I crashed, just to see what they were being told. It was pretty great actually. He pointed out the fact that sometimes you have to take the initiative in educating your customer, because their vision wasn't automatically "right" about absolutely everything. He used an example that I've long since forgotten except that it involved the Navy. Apparently we'd had to overcome some tough opposition to something that our studies indicated they needed, and we were proven right once whatever it was went into the Fleet and they got some experience with it. I remember him saying that if contractors had just spent the last 100 years giving the Navy what they wanted, today they'd have the finest carbon fiber sails and titanium cannon balls that money could buy. Lots of truth there, for customers in general!
 
"Early attempts of one of our Allies at self-sealing consisted of covering the regular airplane tank with a layer of rubber which in turn was held in place by a layer of doped or painted canvas. If they found these at all satisfactory it was because they had only .30-caliber guns used against them by the Germans." --- "The Story of the Self-Sealing Tank," February 1946
It is not sure if is referring to the early Spitfire tank.

The primary Luftwaffe fighter from 1939 onwards was the Me109E which had 20mm MG FF cannons in the wings. Given that the RAF started installing self-sealing fuel tanks in the summer of 1940, it seems implausible that they would have faced Luftwaffe fighters armed only with .30 calibre machine guns.
 
(Further details can be found in the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings article "The Story of the Self-Sealing Tank," February 1946.)

Great post especially for the above comment. I must add though that many British aircraft that I have worked on successfully used external leak protection on their fuel tanks, Spitfires, Hurricanes, Beauforts, Beaufighters.

That file can be found at https://www.aahs-online.org/pubs/journals/files/692109.pdf

and a video of testing external shell self sealing tanks can be found at
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjOXKCuQDRI
 
Hi
Another useful book for info on fuel tank protection is Richard L Dunn's 'Exploding Fuel Tanks - Saga of Technology that changed the course of the Pacific Air War' (first published April 2011, second edition October 2023). However, there should be caveats to this as the author appears to be unaware of the British and French developments during WW1, despite the USAS having the reports on the tanks during that earlier war and being available to researchers. Also he appears not to be totally knowledgeable on the development of British armour for aircraft, which makes his first chapter problematic to some extent (he could have done with reading 'Knights of the Skies' which was published in 2006).

That caveat also applies to the US Navy history on fuel tank protection that I Irregualr23 referenced.
 
Not all self-sealing tanks/coverings are created equal. There were many different brands/types that had different trade-offs.

Qualities looked at by the British were:
  • sealing ability (entry wounds)
  • sealing ability (exit wounds)
  • weight
  • volume
  • cost / production effort

Main types mid-war, in order of best-to-worst performance (first two qualities above) were:
  1. C.I.M.A. 50T
  2. (essentially a three-way tie)
    Semape
    Sorbo
    I.C.I
  3. (two-way tie)
    C.I.M.A. 397H
    Sorbo ¼"
  4. Linatex
 

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