AerialTorpedoDude69
Airman 1st Class
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- Mar 1, 2022
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Dear lord, I just read about Brewster's other aircraft, including its version of the Corsair. Brewster's planes were so bad they were falling apart in the air and pretty much none of their aircraft made their performance estimates.No Brewster Buccaneer?
Dear lord, I just read about Brewster's other aircraft, including its version of the Corsair. Brewster's planes were so bad they were falling apart in the air and pretty much none of their aircraft made their performance estimates.
The factory conditions were something out of a Russ Meyer film. Or perhaps Porky's or maybe Gung Ho is more accurate? Regardless, the article is a very sad read and summarizes how little the government thought about Brewster's aircraft.
People were having sex on the assembly floor inside the planes. Crews were notorious for forgetting tools in the aircraft after they were completed, leaving pilots to wonder what the rattling sound was. The Brewster plant was seized by the government at one point and it even had a worker strike in the middle of the war.
The Brewster XA-32 also deserves some discussion. It was a really bad airplane, particularly for the year it was released (and cancelled).
I was about to vote for ANYTHING produced by Brewster. They were dreadful. The USN knew this, so foisted all the F3A Corsairs onto the Fleet Air Arm!Dear lord, I just read about Brewster's other aircraft, including its version of the Corsair. Brewster's planes were so bad they were falling apart in the air and pretty much none of their aircraft made their performance estimates.
The factory conditions were something out of a Russ Meyer film. Or perhaps Porky's or maybe Gung Ho is more accurate? Regardless, the article is a very sad read and summarizes how little the government thought about Brewster's aircraft.
People were having sex on the assembly floor inside the planes. Crews were notorious for forgetting tools in the aircraft after they were completed, leaving pilots to wonder what the rattling sound was. The Brewster plant was seized by the government at one point and it even had a worker strike in the middle of the war.
The Brewster XA-32 also deserves some discussion. It was a really bad airplane, particularly for the year it was released (and cancelled).
Dear lord, I just read about Brewster's other aircraft, including its version of the Corsair. Brewster's planes were so bad they were falling apart in the air and pretty much none of their aircraft made their performance estimates.
The factory conditions were something out of a Russ Meyer film. Or perhaps Porky's or maybe Gung Ho is more accurate? Regardless, the article is a very sad read and summarizes how little the government thought about Brewster's aircraft.
People were having sex on the assembly floor inside the planes. Crews were notorious for forgetting tools in the aircraft after they were completed, leaving pilots to wonder what the rattling sound was. The Brewster plant was seized by the government at one point and it even had a worker strike in the middle of the war.
The Brewster XA-32 also deserves some discussion. It was a really bad airplane, particularly for the year it was released (and cancelled).
Brewster DID NOT have a plant on Long Island! The facility you are referring to was located at "Long Island City" which is in the borough of Queens. I had an uncle who worked there. Brewster Building (Queens) - WikipediaUnfortunately the article you link is not available to us in the UK (GDPR restrictions)
There were 3 Brewster plants.
Brewster Building, Long Island, New York - the main pre-war factory and company headquarters.
Newark, New Jersey - where aircraft from New York were assembled and flown
Warminster Township, Pennsylvania - acquired in 1941 and where the SB2A Buccaneer/Bermuda was built.
From what I was told by people who worked for Brewster, the Corsairs produced by them had many manufacturing errors (that were corrected by approved repairs) and it was decided that these aircraft would never see fleet service. There were major workmanship issues at BrewsterSo why not use them on the front line? I suspect that, like other US aircraft types, there were manufacturing differences (and I don't mean shoddy build quality) between factories making them less compatible with Vought and Goodyear aircraft. The formed only 22% of Corsair deliveries to Britain and an even smaller proportion of USN deliveries.
NOPE! All part of the same land mass but two different cities/ counties!!!!! You're talking to someone who grew up there!!!Actually Queens is on Long Island.
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Granted Long Island City borders on the East River about where Roosevelt Island is and perhaps the residents of Queens consider the rest of Long Island to be a separate land mass..........
All those times I drove by there and never knew it was the Brewster factory.Brewster DID NOT have a plant on Long Island! The facility you are referring to was located at "Long Island City" which is in the borough of Queens. I had an uncle who worked there. Brewster Building (Queens) - Wikipedia
Truly, the man doth speak! FWIW the pizza in Brooklyn (my home county) is better than the pizza in Queens (my home county).NOPE! All part of the same land mass but two different cities/ counties!!!!! You're talking to someone who grew up there!!!
Define success, Shooting down 1 or 2 aircraft a month out of 5-6000 aircraft penetrating British airspace is not a success.
The problem is what it is that you're choosing as your measure of success. According to you, shooting down 42 aeroplanes between the end of September 1940 and May 1941 is not successful. Using an aircraft's total kills as a standalone measure is not rewarding and doesn't illustrate the entire picture. Again, you're missing vital context, as you so often do, SR. Here's why you can't use kills alone as a measure of success, or the lack of it.
NOPE! All part of the same land mass but two different cities/ counties!!!!! You're talking to someone who grew up there!!!
The island comprises four counties; Kings and Queens counties (the New York City boroughs of Brooklyn and Queens, respectively) and Nassau County share the western third of the island, while Suffolk County occupies the eastern two thirds.
The Defiant gave a poor return on investment.
It is also a poor argument to say that if there had been NO Defiants that the 42 German planes would have been saved.
Ugh, out of towners.