WWII Destroyers?

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Germans had some design experience with large destroyers in WW I but no practical experience (feed back).
The S 113 was running trials when the war ended
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And wound up in French hands as reparations. 2060 tons, 346ft long, 4 15cm guns and 4 23.6in torpedoes. 2 sisters broken up incomplete.
a class of 6 near sisters from a different yard saw one ship (V 116) going to Italy and the other scrapped in various stages of completion. A further group of 3 ships from another yard were all broken up incomplete. These were all oil fired and the Germans had been using oil firing since the 1913 year classes. Early ships had used mixed firing but all oil allowed for a a number of improvements including a large reduction in machinery personnel.
The S 113 had poor sea keeping even in the North Sea.
 
The US made some mistakes of their own in the 1930s.
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Somers class. Sounded good on paper.
8 5in/38s in twin mounts.
2 quad 1.1 AA mounts.
2 0.5in AA guns
12 21 torpedo tubes, all on the center line.

However.
Extremely top-heavy.
The 5in twins would only elevate to 35 degrees. Not dual purpose.
The 1.1s may have been late (?) but in any case, they were troublesome in service.
To solve the top-heaviness they took off the 3rd gun mount and one set of torpedo tubes.
In fact the last two ships got 1st and 4th mounts replaced by the later twin mount hi elevation guns and got a single gun in the 3rd mount location and given a scattering of 40mm (3 twin mounts) and 20mm guns leaving them with about the same fire power as a Fetcher. These two also got a late war emergency AA refit which traded all the torpedoes for extra AA guns.
They were just a few feet off the length of a Fletcher and just about 3 ft narrower. Kind of shows what the DP battery costs in a small ship.
 

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