1:48 Engine Room #3 Battleship USS New Jersey for Permanent Display on Board. (3 Viewers)
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Great work so far!
N4521U
Plastic Pirate
Need some decals for alllll them gauges!!!!!!
I know someone!
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I don't do well making gauge decals in 1:48. Inkjet, decals when really small, get water intrusion under the seal coat and the ink runs ruining all the details. And the 1:1 gauges have very fine pointers and graphics exacerbating this problem. I discussed it with Ryan and we decided to not fret over it. Getting them made commercially surely was an option, but I'm giving this model away and was constantly working to minimize my out-of-pocket costs. Even so, it cost many hundreds of dollars to build.
Today is the official completion day with all the figures epoxied into place and the case reinstalled. Delivery to the ship will be at 9:00am on Monday, December 29. John Miano, the man who got me the drawings and making the model possible, is going to be there along with my nephew and two other fellows who live in the area and want to see it. I'm also going to do the first finding tour of the steering gear compartments, which you can now surmise will be the next model I'm going to attempt. To that end, John sent me the actual engineering drawings of the propellers. My atttempts to draw them based on two pictures is not really correct. John says he has drawings of the steering gear, so that project should be a go.
You've all seen these views before, but now the crew members are permenantly fixed—at least I hope so—and the model is in its final form. I can lift and carry the complete model, but it's a bit heavy and unwield. Just to be safe I'm going to need help getting it out of the basement and into the car.
Looking a little closer… I've added a bit more crew than the standard 8 member watch to place folks around more of the equipment. I was able to reshape one of the new figures into a step-climbing position and have him coming up from the lower level. I inadvertently used Tamiya normal blue instead of flat to do the denim mixes. I went back and used Tamiya flat clear, but still was dull enough. Then went over it again with Testor's Dullcoat brush laquer, but it's still shinnier than I want. But I'm not doing anything more… to many opportunities to screw something up.
This view lets you know just how big the gears are in the gear box. The folks really help in that understanding.
When I see the model in its final form, I really am amazed that I built it, and frankly, not quite sure how it was possible. There were so many variables that had to work just right that it's existent was never a sure thing. I'm not as concerned about the steering gear. With the necessity of having to form part of the aft hull shape, the model will bring in some different skills more akin to building an RC aircraft model. Luckily, I've done that before.
And with this post, I am declaring the Engine Room Project DONE! The Steering Gear project, when it begins I'll post it on a new thread.
Thanks to everyone's attention for all the time you spent reading all of this. It was a fun, challenging and rewarding build and I hope that the thousands of people who will see it over the coming years will appreciate what it takes to make something like this. These models are truly my legacy. The ship will be a museum long after I'm gone.
Today is the official completion day with all the figures epoxied into place and the case reinstalled. Delivery to the ship will be at 9:00am on Monday, December 29. John Miano, the man who got me the drawings and making the model possible, is going to be there along with my nephew and two other fellows who live in the area and want to see it. I'm also going to do the first finding tour of the steering gear compartments, which you can now surmise will be the next model I'm going to attempt. To that end, John sent me the actual engineering drawings of the propellers. My atttempts to draw them based on two pictures is not really correct. John says he has drawings of the steering gear, so that project should be a go.
You've all seen these views before, but now the crew members are permenantly fixed—at least I hope so—and the model is in its final form. I can lift and carry the complete model, but it's a bit heavy and unwield. Just to be safe I'm going to need help getting it out of the basement and into the car.
Looking a little closer… I've added a bit more crew than the standard 8 member watch to place folks around more of the equipment. I was able to reshape one of the new figures into a step-climbing position and have him coming up from the lower level. I inadvertently used Tamiya normal blue instead of flat to do the denim mixes. I went back and used Tamiya flat clear, but still was dull enough. Then went over it again with Testor's Dullcoat brush laquer, but it's still shinnier than I want. But I'm not doing anything more… to many opportunities to screw something up.
This view lets you know just how big the gears are in the gear box. The folks really help in that understanding.
When I see the model in its final form, I really am amazed that I built it, and frankly, not quite sure how it was possible. There were so many variables that had to work just right that it's existent was never a sure thing. I'm not as concerned about the steering gear. With the necessity of having to form part of the aft hull shape, the model will bring in some different skills more akin to building an RC aircraft model. Luckily, I've done that before.
And with this post, I am declaring the Engine Room Project DONE! The Steering Gear project, when it begins I'll post it on a new thread.
Thanks to everyone's attention for all the time you spent reading all of this. It was a fun, challenging and rewarding build and I hope that the thousands of people who will see it over the coming years will appreciate what it takes to make something like this. These models are truly my legacy. The ship will be a museum long after I'm gone.
syscom3
Pacific Historian
This was a fantastic thread. I am sure we all learned new things!
Vic Balshaw
Major General
Once again you have entertained and enthralled us with this amazing reproduction of the engine room of USS New Jersey.
Thank you and well done.
Thank you and well done.
Excellent work so far!
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I got nothing. That build is way too impressive to articulate. Great stuff!
T Bolt
Colonel
You have done a fantastic job!
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Staff Sergeant
Thanks folks. Hope everyone who celebrates had a lovely Christmas and got everything they asked for from Santa. We started the drive to the Philadelphia area on XMas eve day, and arrived yesterday. If you can do it, driving over the road on these two days was wonderful. No traffic, no trucks, and not much construction. Other than spending 11 hours in a car, it was totally stress free.
The model made the trip to my sister's house in perfect condition. The Buick is a very smooth riding car and the roads were in great condition. No major bumps and no parts were lying in the bottom of the case when we arrived.
Weather on the weekend is forecast as lousy, but temperatures with moderate on Monday (delivery day) and only light rain is expected. Ergo, all systems are go to bring the model to the ship at 9:00 am. I am also going to do some picture taking of the steering compartments in anticipation of the next build. John Miano said he has engineering drawings of them somewhere. As with the engine room, no drawings =.no project. Of course, I will keep everyone apprised of the situation.
The model made the trip to my sister's house in perfect condition. The Buick is a very smooth riding car and the roads were in great condition. No major bumps and no parts were lying in the bottom of the case when we arrived.
Weather on the weekend is forecast as lousy, but temperatures with moderate on Monday (delivery day) and only light rain is expected. Ergo, all systems are go to bring the model to the ship at 9:00 am. I am also going to do some picture taking of the steering compartments in anticipation of the next build. John Miano said he has engineering drawings of them somewhere. As with the engine room, no drawings =.no project. Of course, I will keep everyone apprised of the situation.
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Builder 2010
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The engine room made the 700+ mile trip from our Louisville house to the Battleship New Jersey in perfect condition. That was a miracle considering the number of pieces and the complexity of its construction. Every bump we hit I was expecting to hear the tinkle of parts flopping onto the base. It never happened. It's now displayed in the same space as the other two models I created for the ship in the Officer's Ward Room Lounge. I've suggested to Ryan Syzmanski that they put a mirror behind it so folks can view the aft side which also has important details to view.
The image shows me with Ryan going over some interesting aspects of the engine room design that had to be incorparated in the model. One of these was the 3º outboard facing angle of the entire propulsion train. None of the propeller shafts are parallel to the ship's center line.
I'm starting to gather information on the next project; the steering compartments. We spent about an hour photographing and scanning this equipment. Next to Ryan's officce is the "blueprint room" which has banker boxes full of every drawing used to build the ship. I found the one labeled "Mechanical Steering" and found all of the drawings needed to build the model.
As much as I'm sorry to see it go, I'm am relieved that the model made it unscathed and is in a great viewing place to be seen long after I'm gone.
The steering gear consists of four compartments: 2 with identical hydraulic pumps and controls, and 2 with massive double-acting hydraulic cylinders pushing and pulling on the crank that tops the rudder post. I did a rough calculation to figure out the forces involved in turning a 25 foot tall rudder steering a 57 ton vessel at 33 knots and ccme up with around 600,000 pounds. I'm contemplating a model that will have the rudder system oscillating to show folks how it works.
This is starboard steering room. The left and rear bulkheads are 17" armor plate. The right bulkhead is thin and separates the two steering compartments. Unlike all the other major armor installations in the ship, this area is the only space where the armor is a structural part of the ship and not an appliqué. It's a place that needs a lot of protection. At the base of the rudder post is a handwheel and worm that engages in a ring gear surrounding the rudder post. The chances of manually cranking the rudder around are about the same as rotating a main turret with the handwheel in the electric deck—zero to none.
Looking from the other end, you see the connecting links from the cylinder crosshead to the rudder crank. There are four connecting links; two on top and two on the bottom. The size of the parts is a good indication of the forces being managed in this machinery.
This is the official last post of the engine room project. When I begin the steering systems in earnest I will open another thread. If you're ever in the US East Coast in the Philadelphia area, please take some time to visit the New Jersey. It's worth the trip!
The image shows me with Ryan going over some interesting aspects of the engine room design that had to be incorparated in the model. One of these was the 3º outboard facing angle of the entire propulsion train. None of the propeller shafts are parallel to the ship's center line.
I'm starting to gather information on the next project; the steering compartments. We spent about an hour photographing and scanning this equipment. Next to Ryan's officce is the "blueprint room" which has banker boxes full of every drawing used to build the ship. I found the one labeled "Mechanical Steering" and found all of the drawings needed to build the model.
As much as I'm sorry to see it go, I'm am relieved that the model made it unscathed and is in a great viewing place to be seen long after I'm gone.
The steering gear consists of four compartments: 2 with identical hydraulic pumps and controls, and 2 with massive double-acting hydraulic cylinders pushing and pulling on the crank that tops the rudder post. I did a rough calculation to figure out the forces involved in turning a 25 foot tall rudder steering a 57 ton vessel at 33 knots and ccme up with around 600,000 pounds. I'm contemplating a model that will have the rudder system oscillating to show folks how it works.
This is starboard steering room. The left and rear bulkheads are 17" armor plate. The right bulkhead is thin and separates the two steering compartments. Unlike all the other major armor installations in the ship, this area is the only space where the armor is a structural part of the ship and not an appliqué. It's a place that needs a lot of protection. At the base of the rudder post is a handwheel and worm that engages in a ring gear surrounding the rudder post. The chances of manually cranking the rudder around are about the same as rotating a main turret with the handwheel in the electric deck—zero to none.
Looking from the other end, you see the connecting links from the cylinder crosshead to the rudder crank. There are four connecting links; two on top and two on the bottom. The size of the parts is a good indication of the forces being managed in this machinery.
This is the official last post of the engine room project. When I begin the steering systems in earnest I will open another thread. If you're ever in the US East Coast in the Philadelphia area, please take some time to visit the New Jersey. It's worth the trip!
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syscom3
Pacific Historian
I enjoyed everyone of your posts!
Great stuff!
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Builder 2010
Staff Sergeant
One more update. Ryan Syzmanski just uploaded another video in his Battleship New Jersey. This one features the Engine Room model. He did a very flattering job on this one.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSs5eOb6Guc&t=9s
Next up will be the Steering Gear, when I can get my hands on the drawings. Stay tuned...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSs5eOb6Guc&t=9s
Next up will be the Steering Gear, when I can get my hands on the drawings. Stay tuned...
syscom3
Pacific Historian
Congrats!
N4521U
Plastic Pirate
You must be chuffed!
Well done mate!!!!!!!! 4oh
Well done mate!!!!!!!! 4oh
Excellent!
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