5 Favourite Planes

[Greg Boeser]

B-26 MA 40-1558
B-26B MA 41-17562
B-26B MA 41-17747
B-26B-25 MA 41-31173
Oh, and I have a soft spot for P-40s too.

 

[Akuma]

Piper L-4 Grasshopper
Fieseler Storch
Focke Wulf 189
DC-3/C-47
Dehavilland Dragon Rapide

 

[Philip Burgess]

so germany suplied planes so they could defend themselfs to the country they'd bombed 6 years earlier, isn't that rubbing it in?

Nazi Germany's Condor Legion was sent to Spain to help the Facist Uprising against the democratically elected Repuplican Government. The Coup failed and resulted in a civil war where Italy and Germany were allies. The Nacionalist fascists took over and slaughtered thousands of innocent Spaniards, post War. Hitler supplied arms to fascist Spain in return for "Division Azul" volunteers sent to the Russian front.

 

[pops-paolo]

Nazi Germany's Condor Legion was sent to Spain to help the Facist Uprising against the democratically elected Repuplican Government. The Coup failed and resulted in a civil war where Italy and Germany were allies. The Nacionalist fascists took over and slaughtered thousands of innocent Spaniards, post War. Hitler supplied arms to fascist Spain in return for "Division Azul" volunteers sent to the Russian front.

If the communists had the advantage they would have probably done the exact same they just didn't have the capabilities too
I'm not saying the white terror was bad but I am saying that radicals on both sides wanted to do the same to each other just one was able to get it done

 

[GrauGeist]

The Civil War started first, then came foreign help shortly after.
Germany had nothing to do with the political turmoil in Spain.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

They certainly weighed in once the turmoil started.

 

[GrauGeist]

They certainly weighed in once the turmoil started.

Not as much as some would think, Germany sent ground troops and the Condor Legion, but in limited numbers.
Italy had over twice as many involved than Germany and Portugal combined.
France, Mexico and the Soviet Union had about as many in support of the Marxist Republicans.

Hitler limited his support because he didn't want it escelating into a major war.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Not as much as some would think, Germany sent ground troops and the Condor Legion, but in limited numbers.
Italy had over twice as many involved than Germany and Portugal combined.
France, Mexico and the Soviet Union had about as many in support of the Marxist Republicans.

Hitler limited his support because he didn't want it escelating into a major war.

Sure. But German forces made an an impact. That's the only point I was making,

 

[Spectre311]

1. P-47N Thunderbolt
2. F4U-4 Corsair
3. B-17E/F (I get that the G model is better but I like how clean the Flying Fortress looks without the chin turret)
4. A6M Zero
5. B-29

 

[SaparotRob]

I like your call on the B-17.

 

[GrauGeist]

The B-17C was the best looking of the bunch.

 

[GregP]

P-63 would have killed the P-39. But it still lacked a turbosupercharger so it was strickly a low-altitude machine. It was supposed to be a real beast in close air support missions though.

Not quite true.

There were seven different production blocks covering the 1,725 P-63As. All were powered by the Allison V-1710-95 engine with a two-stage supercharger mounted behind the engine. It didn't take a back seat to any fighter. It wasn't exactly the fastest plane around, but it was a good one. Top sped was near 420 mph, but it has very good roll and pitch rates and would definitely throw some serious armament at anything it shot at.

The main weakness was range. You could get 2,200 miles in ferry mode, but the combat range was 450 miles.

Service ceiling was 43,000 feet, right there in P-51 country.

We basically didn't buy it because 1) it looked like a P-39, and 2) the range wasn't good enough for escort, and 3) although it could give a P-51 fitsina fight, it wasn't exactly demonstrably better than a P-51, and we already had P-51s in production with trained mechanics in the field. No sense in sending another airplane that was about as good with shorter range and no clear improvement.

 

[SaparotRob]

The B-17C was the best looking of the bunch.

Close. So very close. It's the B-17B.
The tear drop ventral position is so much classier than the dustbin.
I love those tear drop blisters and the B model didn't have a pimple on its nose.

EDIT: The B-17F is my favorite. The Piccadilly Lily was my first crush.

 

[GrauGeist]

Not quite true.

There were seven different production blocks covering the 1,725 P-63As. All were powered by the Allison V-1710-95 engine with a two-stage supercharger mounted behind the engine. It didn't take a back seat to any fighter. It wasn't exactly the fastest plane around, but it was a good one. Top sped was near 420 mph, but it has very good roll and pitch rates and would definitely throw some serious armament at anything it shot at.

The main weakness was range. You could get 2,200 miles in ferry mode, but the combat range was 450 miles.

Service ceiling was 43,000 feet, right there in P-51 country.

We basically didn't buy it because 1) it looked like a P-39, and 2) the range wasn't good enough for escort, and 3) although it could give a P-51 fitsina fight, it wasn't exactly demonstrably better than a P-51, and we already had P-51s in production with trained mechanics in the field. No sense in sending another airplane that was about as good with shorter range and no clear improvement.

Not to mention, that when the P-63 was introduced in 1943, the USAAF already had the P-47, P-38, P-51 and P-40 in service.

There really was not a need for one more type.

*edited because my GD spell check thinks it knows better than I do...*

 

[SaparotRob]

wasn't (?)

 

[GrauGeist]

wasn't (?)

Should have read "wasn't", but my piece of sh*t phone had other ideas.

I really hate this phone.

Seriously...

 

[SaparotRob]

I knew it was. Not as funny as the Battle for Latte Gulf, though.

 

[Sabrejet]

In this order:

1. F-86D
2. F-86A
3. XP-86
4. F-86H
5. F-86F.

That order changes depending on the weather. Sometimes, for variety I like to add P-86B, YF-93A, F-86E, F-86K, F-86L, Canadair or CAC variants. So I guess you could say it's an eclectic mix.

 

[PFVA63]

Hmmm,
In chronological order (I guess);

1. SPAD XIII
2. Albatross DIII/V
3. Brewster B239/339
4. De Havilland Vampire
5. F86D
6. DC-9 family

I know that's six (families of) planes, and the first five are probbly based solely on looks. For the sixth one I guess that maybe you weren't considering commercial aircraft but when I was younger the DC-9 family of planes was my favorite aircraft to travel on because it was just big enough to feel like a full sized jet and not a commuter plane, while still being small enough to not get stuck having to wit for a hundred plus other passengers to load or disembark before you. And with its 2 seats on one side/3 seats on the other side of the ailse you could either be sure of not having to worry bout being in the middle seat if you were on the left side of the plane, or if you picked an aisle seat on the right side of the plane you could stand up while waiting to disembark without having to stoop due to an overhead bin above you.

Pat

 

[SaparotRob]

Nice selection! I think this is the first time, since I've been here, anyone here has said they like the F-86D.