I totally agree. Bargains can be had, with patience.
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Totally agree, half price book stores, antique stores and even flee markets are also some of the places you can find books on sale. Online several books stores have been listed for good deals. I probably have a list of about 200 books on my wish list at any one time that I watch out for over the years and still watching out for and have found a few at decent prices due to certain stores not knowing the worth or just needing to get rid of. Me personally I am now to the point where I have slowed down and more particular what I buy but again totally agree with Jim that patience can bring the best rewords.
Funny how we are talking scoring a good deal. In my option this would be one of them. Always looking for Prien series books at a good score and for 15 bucks I just ordered this one. Found on Amazon with one of there sub shops. Receipt of order below and name of company. Hope to receive it in a couple of weeks
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Same here...how do you think I learned patience in the first place?
That and I'm not rich.
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Great Buy Paul.
Wish I could get my hands on Prien's entire Series......
Wish I could get my hands on Prien's entire Series......
Thanks Wayne and agree great series on book and wish I had the entire collection as well. Maybe in time but really tough to fi d cheap in good shape
I don't worry too much about condition. If I can read the contents and see the pictures I will turn a blind eye to some staining, writing in and book/dust cover damage. Again, these diamonds in the rough should be considered. Just saying.
This just came today so I haven't had much time to look through it. I have heard tempered praise for it, but honestly can anyone get enough Fw 200 Condor?
First off great score on the Condor. I have it as well. Probably the best one I have on the subject. I really don't have a lot of books on that subject to compare to which tends to limit what I know about her.
Agreed there are diamonds in the rough and I have bought a few. My problem is I had a few show up that had missing pages that the seller did not know. I have fixed a few that had broken binders so they look like new mainly so the missing pages don't fall out. I have rebought a few as well because I liked the book so well I wanted a better copy of the book. The Prien books though I am a little more picky on as they are great research sources of info and photos so books I look at more than others I tend to want a better quality but that's just me.
Again nice score on the Fw-200.
O/T, but slightly related. Just remember the three things people lie about:
1. How much they won in the casino
2. How well their investments are doing
3. How much they paid for their car
Just be happy you found something you wanted, when you wanted it, for a price you were willingly able to pay for a hobby item.
Had that happen to me with a MMP book about the wrecked Russian aircraft of operation Barbarossa and when I told the forum about it Jan just sent me his copy! No hesitation. I was shocked and delighted by his generosity. I tried to pay him back by sending him a book on wrecked trains that I loved as a kid, but I don't think it did him justice. When I think of him, I think of that.
Very Detailed for Size and Scope
To get the most out of this volume you will need to browse it repeatedly.
The earliest chapters layout the beginnings of airlift including a significant amount of text devoted to the combat gliders and their replacements. This includes covering the Stoukoff, Chase, Fairchild story of the CG-122 through YC-134. Other little fun tidbits included a small paragraph on the Thieblot TA-13 and the Fairchild M-258 (A variant of the Fokker F.27).
Almost every aircraft receives similar high-quality coverage of striking depth for such a diverse book. although coming from a "different pot of money" this also includes the development of SAC's tanker fleet which also gets 34 pages of coverage including illustrations of some very elegant but none practical design exercises.
While the in-service aircraft themselves do not receive extensive coverage, if you have any interest in the current or past airlift inventory of the USAF over the last 50 years this book becomes a must buy as it covers the evolution of the tactical airlift culminating in the service debut of the modern USAF cargo/tanker aircraft leading to the aircraft that are in service today.
Also included throughout the volume are some original manufacturers color brochure paintings. They make for some very nice eye candy. Their inclusion here is a nice addition.
Overall, in terms of USAF cargo/airlift/tankers there is nothing to criticize about this book. The bibliography is extensive and probably around 40-50% original archival research containing new source material.
If you're looking for modeling references or development of US Navy Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) airlifters, look elsewhere. There are not enough details for modelers and the authors completely neglected the TBM-3R and TF-1/C-1 COD.
Recommended without reservation for anyone interested in cargo aircraft, USAF cargo and tanker aircraft.
To get the most out of this volume you will need to browse it repeatedly.
The earliest chapters layout the beginnings of airlift including a significant amount of text devoted to the combat gliders and their replacements. This includes covering the Stoukoff, Chase, Fairchild story of the CG-122 through YC-134. Other little fun tidbits included a small paragraph on the Thieblot TA-13 and the Fairchild M-258 (A variant of the Fokker F.27).
Almost every aircraft receives similar high-quality coverage of striking depth for such a diverse book. although coming from a "different pot of money" this also includes the development of SAC's tanker fleet which also gets 34 pages of coverage including illustrations of some very elegant but none practical design exercises.
While the in-service aircraft themselves do not receive extensive coverage, if you have any interest in the current or past airlift inventory of the USAF over the last 50 years this book becomes a must buy as it covers the evolution of the tactical airlift culminating in the service debut of the modern USAF cargo/tanker aircraft leading to the aircraft that are in service today.
Also included throughout the volume are some original manufacturers color brochure paintings. They make for some very nice eye candy. Their inclusion here is a nice addition.
Overall, in terms of USAF cargo/airlift/tankers there is nothing to criticize about this book. The bibliography is extensive and probably around 40-50% original archival research containing new source material.
If you're looking for modeling references or development of US Navy Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) airlifters, look elsewhere. There are not enough details for modelers and the authors completely neglected the TBM-3R and TF-1/C-1 COD.
Recommended without reservation for anyone interested in cargo aircraft, USAF cargo and tanker aircraft.
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Flight Into China Airspace 1910-1950
This book has been a real mixed bag. Some of the photographs are truly exceptional showing the unbelievable variety of aircraft and operator's in China up until the arrival of the US Army's 14th Air Force. The book is particularly well illustrated from 1931-1937 when the author worked in China while photographs for the other periods up to 1942 were provided by close acquaintances. Overall the text and photos provide an excellent record from the period mentioned above and from 1942 to 1945 when the author returned to China. The era from 1910 until 1931 is also a bit skinny. There are no pictures to be had after 1945.
Some pictures that did stand out (In no particular order, were single picture of a Savoia-Marchetti parked along side a Caproni in 1936, an I-16 next to a DC-2, a Vultee V-11, and a Curtiss CW-21.
Other unexpected bits and pieces included a few propaganda leaflets (3 American, 1 Japanese) a few approach plates, post flight interrogation debriefs. The six-page chapter on Soviet aid is also fairly well illustrated reasonably well fleshed out for its size.
Out of 219 pages, 112 pages cover the AVG and USAAF in China WWII with nothing after 1945, which means that 51% of the book covers five years out of 40. (Or for the math geeks, 51% covers of the book covers 12.5% of the years. Despite the title, the book effectively ends in 1945. But, interspersed throughout the book are little tidbits that will actually carry the reader past 1950. For example, Chapter VII; Commercial Aviation in China effectively ends in 1968 with the demise of CAT airlines
Errors include calling the Polikarpov I-16 the E-16, captioning a Kawasaki Hien Ki-61 (Tony) as license built German aircraft, and a photo of a high-speed pass captioned as a final approach.
The book is enjoyable, but, don't take it for more than what it is, a personal photo album that has been fleshed out. It is not a scholarly history per se of Flight in China 1910-1950.
For modelers there are four pages of B-24 nose art. (Regrettably sans aircraft serial number.) and a few other tidbits that would make the book a "nice to have" acquisition, but nothing to go out of the way for.
Moderately recommended for anyone interested in Chinese aviation, particularly the earliest years.
A qualified strong recommendation for those interested in the Chinese air war from 1932 and US Army Air Forces in China during WWII.
This book has been a real mixed bag. Some of the photographs are truly exceptional showing the unbelievable variety of aircraft and operator's in China up until the arrival of the US Army's 14th Air Force. The book is particularly well illustrated from 1931-1937 when the author worked in China while photographs for the other periods up to 1942 were provided by close acquaintances. Overall the text and photos provide an excellent record from the period mentioned above and from 1942 to 1945 when the author returned to China. The era from 1910 until 1931 is also a bit skinny. There are no pictures to be had after 1945.
Some pictures that did stand out (In no particular order, were single picture of a Savoia-Marchetti parked along side a Caproni in 1936, an I-16 next to a DC-2, a Vultee V-11, and a Curtiss CW-21.
Other unexpected bits and pieces included a few propaganda leaflets (3 American, 1 Japanese) a few approach plates, post flight interrogation debriefs. The six-page chapter on Soviet aid is also fairly well illustrated reasonably well fleshed out for its size.
Out of 219 pages, 112 pages cover the AVG and USAAF in China WWII with nothing after 1945, which means that 51% of the book covers five years out of 40. (Or for the math geeks, 51% covers of the book covers 12.5% of the years. Despite the title, the book effectively ends in 1945. But, interspersed throughout the book are little tidbits that will actually carry the reader past 1950. For example, Chapter VII; Commercial Aviation in China effectively ends in 1968 with the demise of CAT airlines
Errors include calling the Polikarpov I-16 the E-16, captioning a Kawasaki Hien Ki-61 (Tony) as license built German aircraft, and a photo of a high-speed pass captioned as a final approach.
The book is enjoyable, but, don't take it for more than what it is, a personal photo album that has been fleshed out. It is not a scholarly history per se of Flight in China 1910-1950.
For modelers there are four pages of B-24 nose art. (Regrettably sans aircraft serial number.) and a few other tidbits that would make the book a "nice to have" acquisition, but nothing to go out of the way for.
Moderately recommended for anyone interested in Chinese aviation, particularly the earliest years.
A qualified strong recommendation for those interested in the Chinese air war from 1932 and US Army Air Forces in China during WWII.
This type of aircraft history is not usually on my acquisition list. However, with the Crowood volume selling for it's weight in silver this seemed like a nice budget book to stick one's toe into the Shackleton water so to speak.
Ms. Lake writes with obvious sensitivity about the RAF and her personnel and this shows in how she conveys the affection of the air and ground personnel towards the Shackleton. While not particularity heavy in terms of technical details, any one familiar with postwar RAF ops will find a bit to bite into.
Ms. Lake was fortunate to be able to tap into the memories of the aircrew and ground personnel especially those that participated in Aden (Yemen) and the other Gulf states as those operations are now, like the aircraft also fading from memory. Other operations such as the blockade patrols out of Madagascar opened up areas of RAF operations that are also probably relatively unknown. Overall, a world-wide operational area is covered with a fair amount of detail and filled in with anecdotes by the participating crews
The chapters covering the travails of the AEW conversion, crew training and operations will ring absolutely familiar to anyone who has operation in austere budgetary environment with senior officers who either don't understand the aircraft or do not support it.
Not recommended for modeler or nuts and bolts types. If you're looking for ASW reading, look elsewhere. Strongly recommended for those interested in RAF overseas operations and day to day life in the RAF from the late 1940's until 1991.
Great, indepth reviews. Thank you!
Tell me please, does the "American Secret Projects" book deal mostly with paper projects? Like how much is the book dedicated to project that at least got to the mockup stage or prototype?
Tell me please, does the "American Secret Projects" book deal mostly with paper projects? Like how much is the book dedicated to project that at least got to the mockup stage or prototype?
A couple of more for the series...
