After the Battle: The Price of Defeat

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1.- Ki-45 Toryu Clark Field Philippines 1945
2.- Ki-45 Toryu hangar Clark Field Philippines 1945
3.- Ki-46-II 'Dinah' 10th Recon Sentai Hollandia New Guinea 1944
4.- Ki-48-II 'Lily' Bomber wreck New Guinea 1945
5.- Ki-48 'Lily' bomber wreck Munda airfield New Georgia Island 1943
 

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1.- Ki-43 Hayabusa Oscar
2.- Ki-43 Hayabusa fighter beside the wing of a Ki-48 bomber. In the background are several A6m Zero-sen wrecks
3.- Ki-43-II Hayabusa Oscar 59th Sentai Hollandia New Guinea 1944
4.- Ki-43 Hayabusa Oscar
5.- Japanese aircraft wrecks piled on beach Munda New Georgia Island 1943
 

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1.- Mitsubishi G4M Betty at Mitsubishi´s factory, Japan, 1945.
2.- Unknown Aircraft at Iwo Jima, February 1945
3.- Crashed japanese plane on Guam beach (Aichi Val)
4.- Bombed Japanese planes
5.- Japanese plane camo
 

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1.- K5Y Willow wreck at Yokota airfield
2.- A6M2-N suisen wrecks at Alameda NAS
4.- Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien
3.- Kawanishi H8K
4, 5 6.- Unknown
 

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Looking through all these pictures of the acres of destroyed aircraft in some of the pics, one thing popped into my mind I have never really thought about. Can you imagine the cleanup effort that was undertaken after the war to dispose of all these discarded planes? It must have been a huge undertaking. Any one have any info on the men, time, and cost that it took to remove the piles and piles of wrecks of panes, tanks, trucks, etc?
 

Good point Messy, that was actually a big time "growth industry" as the war ended. All that crap was taken away, melted down and ended up in aluminum pots and steel frames of the postwar construction. Went on all over the world.

Something not talked about a lot (but related) was the way the US handled the Lend Lease stuff that Britian had. The way it worked out, the US wrote off anything that was destroyed in the war (operationally or on Ops). The remainder of the stuff was sold to Great Britain at scrap value. About .05 to .02 on the dollar (the scrap market was more or less saturated at that time-obviously). Then, they gave the Brits a 60 year loan on the items involved at less than the rate of inflation/very favorable terms. That allowed the Brits to pay it off based on the inherent growth of their currency.

Long and short, by doing some fast and loose math on the books (that nobody objected to), the US ended up giving the Brits the same deal they would've gotten had they taken the Marshall Plan without actually taking the Marshall Plan. And the way they did it was by making the "stuff" the Brits had at the end of the war the basis for the payoff.

So all that stuff was scrapped and paid for on a long term loan.

Pretty slick. But there was a logic too it that was based on what happened after the end of WW1 (when the US didn't forgive any loans) and the realization that Britain was broke. Slick, but smart.
 

Great stuff! I can look at these all day..


A better copyright question is why no one cries foul at the ENDLESS amount of copyrighted material posted in the video section for download. Hypocritical, double standard!

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It's those kinds of policies - post WW2 - that make the USA look so good - and make today's remedies look so "pinched". Having said that, different times, different times. I am hopeful that the US can "win" Pakistan. The P's love the benefits of capitalism and democracy - but they haven't shown they are prepared to pay the "price" of democracy and the 21st Century. If they aren't ..... Af'stan is a lost cause.

In many ways the war on Fundamentalist Islam is far more difficult than the cold war.

MM
 

the allies put the former luftwaffe pilots and ground crews to work tearing them all apart. i have a picture of that somewhere....will post it when i find it. was a pic of kit carsons plane being dismantled at neubiberg, germany.
 
1.- Polikarpov R-5
2.- LaGG-3
3.- Polikarpov U-2
4 5.- Polikarpov I-16
6 7.- Polikarpov I-153
 

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1.- Brester Buffalo
 

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