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Well done Graeme - and bonus kudos to Tzaw1! The Avro went through various changes in its life but it seems Avro could not persuade anyone to buy it. Which makes me wonder what was wrong with it as, to my modern eyes, it doesn't look like it would be any worse than other contemporary designs. Its a shame you found the 4 motor version as I was going to use that after a few more pics just as a test
Advertising images are a great source from the 30's and 40's. You get a feel for what they *wanted* the plane to look like, Like the Heyford image below with its very refined fuselage, in comparison with what was built. They are also a good source for the first images of a type. Earlier in the thread I posted an image from Westland for what became the wyvern, taken fromm a wartime advert when its development had only just begun and its existance was top secret. Similarly there is a Blackburn ad that was printed in 1936/37 showing a 'generic' advanced monoplane in a dive that was revealed, several months later, and with a Mercury radial, rather than the 'Kestrel type' of the ad, to the the Skua, also below.
Finally, at the very bottom, is your next, image
Hi Waynos,
the advertising images are very interesting like everything you edit (btw would it be possible to get a few more of such ad images in colour?) however I must confess that last pic you are submitting represents such a
hideous monster that I can't even think of a country where it was manufactured...
carson
Monospar Croydon alias General Aircraft S.T. 18
Close lingo, but Tzaw1 has it! The ST.18 from General Aircraft Ltd. Carson nailed the description though, a hideous monster indeed
I think I'll sit back and let someone else post for a while or I'll run out of images. Carson, the ads are printed in black and white in the Jane's All The Worlds Aircraft and Flight mags that I have, plus the online Flight archive, which saves scanning old mags, but there was a book published dedicated to Aviation advertising art. I never bought it (though I intend to) and you should be able to find it on ebay.
Let's leave Waynos in peace for a moment.
I'll take the helm for a brief moment and invite all and sundry to identify this much nicer fighter of the thirties (I don't think it's going to last more than ten minutes)
carson
Tzaw1, I have no reason to argue with that. The same photo as Carson posted is in Jane's 1938 where it is noted as the V-150 in the way that I said (except the bit about beingh the Corsairs dad) . As Janes has always covered upcoming aircraft they may well have used a stock photo to illustrate the entry.
Jane's often stumbles. Example? E.g. in this same Jane's 1938 photo of Polish PZL P.24F. In fact this is PZL P.24H. P.24F had 2 Oerlikon cannons. Plane at photo has 4 machine guns (Brownings 303)I have no reason to argue with that.
Aerofiles are rightAerofiles says it is a Northrop 3A of 1935, whether Aerofiles is right or wrong I really don't know
Naval Aircraft Factory NM-1Now that the subject Northrop/Vought seems to be settled I'd like to submit a new challenge, this being the first all metal plane of USN in the twenties:
carson
Naval Aircraft Factory NM-1
That will be because they made it look too French
Great pic Carson, only wish I'd seen it sooner, now I'm over my pig flu I'm back at work, hence the no posts today, boo.