Aircraft Identification V
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carson1934
Senior Airman
carson1934
Senior Airman
Very interesting Tzaw1 I've never seen it till now!
carson
I have made some research and for the ignoramus like myself Tzaw1's diagram is a "Lala 1" (Latajace Laboratorium) an experimental contraption made in Poland and flown in February 1972 put together by using the front part of an Antonov AN-2 whilst the rear part was a framework housing a jet engine (dunno which one)
This is the only pic I could find on the net of the real aircraft (not a model):
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Clue?
Kurt Tank would have had a look in at this project/mockup from time to time but he was concentrating on a large jet fighter.
carson1934
Senior Airman
Maybe an argentinian venture (K.T. was there for a fairly long time before going to India)?
carson
Early design for a swept HAL Kiran? He designed the Marut for Argentina but took it with him.
Yep! It was a parallel development with the Kiran, the HJT-17. HAL were flat strapped with the Mach 2 multi-role requirement and the basic jet trainer so they called in Tank and Mittlehuber to take control of the former which eventually became the HF-24. the Indian team of Ghatage and Mahindra continued with the basic jet trainer design with the HJT-17 eventually losing out to the HJT-16 Kiran.
Marcogrifo
Airman 1st Class
Hi, back in business 
This might be too easy for you guys but it's an interesting unique plane...
Sorry for bad quality image.
Cheers
This might be too easy for you guys but it's an interesting unique plane...
Sorry for bad quality image.
Cheers
carson1934
Senior Airman
Hi, back in business
This might be too easy for you guys but it's an interesting unique plane...
Sorry for bad quality image.
Cheers
Not easy for me Marcogrifo. Check your PM
carson
carson1934
Senior Airman
Hi Graeme,
your picture of the HJT17 has sparked interest for indian aeronautics therefore I did some googling.
First of all: am I right in assuming that the HJT17 was a parallel development with Kiran and the image you have shown is just a mock-up?
Second question if you don't mind.
in surfing the net I found the attached pic which is supposed to be the HT/10 an advanced prop trainer.
Do you have any further info on this A/C?
Sorry to bother you but your immense knowledge and torrential source of info is instrumental in ID ventures...
carson
verner
Airman 1st Class
Tzaw1
Airman 1st Class
Hawker P.1052
carson1934
Senior Airman
Hi, back in business
This might be too easy for you guys but it's an interesting unique plane...
Sorry for bad quality image.
Cheers
Hi Marcogrifo,
unless you provide some clues I'm afraid this is going to remain unknown for some time
carson
Marcogrifo
Airman 1st Class
Hi Marcogrifo,
unless you provide some clues I'm afraid this is going to remain unknown for some time
carson
Need a clue?
Do you think this can help?
Remember, it's a unique plane
Cheers
Steam! Nice find Marcogrifo!
The Besler engined Travel Air 2000.
The Besler Steam Plane 1933 - the first (and probably only) plane which successfully went into the air under steam power!
Sort of. Using the "N" method I get the KOZLOWSKI Short T? According to the site if first flew in 1956? Now that just doesn't seem right.
Nope, other than a 50's Jane's entry that describes the project as "progressing" and provided optimistic detailed data...
