Aircraft Mock-Ups

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  1. Capt. Vick

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    Here is a thread I've been meaning to start for some time. Aircraft Mock-Ups. We have all seen them, the hopes and dreams of aeronautical engineers and aviation companies brought to life in wood, metal, plastic and fiberglass, but sadly ending just short of a production contract. What a museum they could fill. Testament to the era before CAD...so lets get some pictures up gents! (With info if you have it!)

    I have always thought this one was interesting, but seriously...what was Grumman thinking?

    Grumman XTB2F

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    From WIKI

    The Grumman TB2F was a cancelled twin-engined torpedo bomber project, intended as Grumman's successor to the successful TBF Avenger. However, only a mockup was ever constructed.

    In 1944, during World War II, the Midway class aircraft carriers were being built, and Grumman attempted to design a new torpedo bomber to accompany those carriers. However, it was soon decided that, among other difficulties, it would be impracticable to efficiently deploy twin-engined aircraft of this size from an aircraft carrier, and the plans were scrapped.

    Specifications[edit source | edit]Data from A Tracker Before Its Time?[1]

    General characteristics

    Crew: 3
    Length: 52 ft 0 in (15.85 m)
    Wingspan: 74 ft 0 in (22.56 m) (Folded span: 36 ft 0 in (10.97 m))
    Height: 17 ft 0 in (5.18 m)
    Max takeoff weight: 43,937 lb (19,929 kg)
    Fuel capacity: 1,960 US Gallon internal fuel
    Powerplant: 2 × Pratt Whitney R-2800-22 Double Wasp radial engine, 2,100 hp (1,600 kW) each
    Performance

    Maximum speed: 271 kn; 502 km/h (312 mph)
    Stall speed: 62 kn; 114 km/h (71.1 mph)
    Service ceiling: 31,600 ft (9,600 m)
    Armament


    Guns:

    1× 75 mm cannon and 6× .50 in (12.7 mm) machine guns forward firing
    2× .50 in machine guns each in dorsal and ball turrets
    Bombs: 1× Mark 13 torpedo or 3,500 lb (1,600 kg) bombs or mines in bomb bay
     
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    Sure does look like the Tracker, 6 yrs. later, with oodles of firepower.

    Geo
     
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    With a full on retractable belly turret, top turret AND 75 mm cannon? Don't get me wrong, I would buy the Hasegawa kit in a minute if it was made, but did they really think they could make it a viable combat aircraft with those two puny engines? Just saying...
     
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    Now there is one I've never heard of.
     
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    A new possibility, not seen. I can envisage Grumman being a bit peeved loosing this, and keeping the idea until the Tracker did make it. Notice the port wind mounted AS radar - in away this is the abortive Granddad of the Trackers
     
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    #10 razor1uk, Aug 13, 2013
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    I'm afraid the pics you posted FBJ aren't showing up for me - what image host might they be from? Don't worry, they've shown up, must have been a slow browser/connection here in B'ham.
     
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    Good stuff guys!
     
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    Great idea for a thread. I'll have to look and see what I have
     
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    Great pics! Is that actually the startfighter mockup? Never saw that before!
     
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    Holy cow! I was just going to post that one! :lol:
     
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    Great minds think alike! :cool:
     
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    ...and then there's us! :lol:
     
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    Republic VFX

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    Looks like it might have swing wings...

    Some info here:

    Republic VFX?
     
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