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When reading similar stories I always have the feeling that, although this kind of accounts happen everywhere, they are way more common in Russian army due to a lack of NCOs

Mobilised Russians facing the Ukrainian counter-offensive say they were "abandoned like kittens" by their commanders, faced Ukrainian tanks and artillery with light weapons, little ammo and no counter-fire, took heavy casualties, and had no medical evacuations on hand. The "Look out, news" Telegram channel has posted an audio recording of a Russian soldier from the 'Storm' detachment of the 34th Separate Motorised Rifle Brigade. His unit is likely to have recently been redeployed to the Zaporizhzhia front from the left bank of the Dnipro. The men are likely to have been in the Lobkove-Piatykhatky area, where the Russians recently suffered a heavy defeat. The brigade has been badly mauled before during the fighting north of Kherson in 2022. In the recording, the unidentified soldier says:
  • "We were sent to the Zaporizhzhia region with the words "You will be on the defensive, everything will be ready for you, do not take anything with you."
  • "We sent three platoons. We got there at night and immediately came under fire. The shelling did not stop until the morning. We hid in dugouts, in the morning our platoon commander led us to our position during a calm period. The first platoon left the position, just fled.
  • "They didn't give us anything: no shovels, no food, nothing. We found everything ourselves, we asked the guys for a car, we asked for tools to dig in, and naturally we didn't have time to do it.
  • "On the second day we were abandoned by the second platoon, and after that we were left alone. At 4 AM on 19 June, we were attacked. Mortars hit us, artillery and tanks hit us. Nothing was done on our side. No retaliatory strike on the enemy technology.
  • "We were like that for more than 6 hours, and after that we received an order to retreat. Retreating, we lost one soldier, a second was wounded, later we learned that he died in hospital. We had 6-7 wounded, nobody came for us.
  • "No point of evacuation was assigned, the platoon commander clarified this more than once. We were told there was no evacuation point. Our command abandoned us in our positions. We left by ourselves, after the platoon commander was seriously wounded.
  • "One of the soldiers remained with him, by some unimaginable miracle a car turned up in which (as we later learned) were our commanders. They took him out, he had a very serious leg injury. And we left two days later.
  • "We were driven back to our positions without psychological help. We did not prepare for this, we did not know how it would be for us, we thought we had a line of defence ahead of us, that there are contract [professional] soldiers there, who were performing such actions.
  • "We got out on foot. We walked more than 20 km, and this was done by a group of 15 people. We returned to the village and purely by chance we met the commander of the second battalion, who was looking for a soldier.
  • "If not for him, we wouldn't have known where our equipment is, where all our officers are. He picked us up. We arrived at 5 PM. There we were told that our commanders were already there before lunch.
  • "But no car was sent for us, no-one was looking for us, no-one worried "where are they, how are they." We were just abandoned like kittens. What we had was an automatic rifle, 10 clips each and a couple of grenades.
  • "Well, what could we do against mortars that fired at us without response, tanks that drove into an open field and hit us with direct fire. Now, as mobilised [men] of the 34th brigade, we refuse to go to the front line.
  • "They threaten us, they frighten us with prison, no work was done with us, no conversation was carried out, the psychologist did not even talk to us."
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Possible Wagner base in Belarus:


The base is a long way from the border with Ukraine which, hopefully, is good news. The facility looks pretty barren. I'm guessing the Wagnerites are putting up tents but it will be interesting to see how this develops. If Prigozhin isn't being paid by Moscow, how will this force be maintained?
 

Prigozhin's got a lot of money on his own, and Wagner has troops in control of mines in Africa as well as payouts from the patrons there.
 
Wagner isn't owned solely by Prigozhin. Where are the other guys?

You're missing the point, which is not about the ownership per se but rather the financing available to make the payroll and procure the weapons.

Speaking of which, I wonder if Russia would be willing to sell them more weapons after this? Probably so, for outside Europe.
 

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