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If I was Ukraine I would cede Crimea and the smaller areas in the east the separatists occupied before the war. Those three places are vastly majority Russian populated and thus a likely source of trouble in the future. Focus on keeping the areas populated by Ukrainians, make peace and then militarize like hell, including setting up your own Iron Dome system, to be ready for the next time.
....and if they reach this agreement, Adolph Putin will be back tomorrow for another portion of Ukraine. It's insane to expect an unreasonable person to be reasonable and it's Ukraine that will pay the price, in land and blood. When Uklaine disapears, which country volunteers to be the next sacrificial lamb?
Russia will be back, so I'm suggesting that Ukraine cede the pre-war territories in order to buy time. In Crimea Ukraine hardly fired a shot, they did nothing to defend the territory, and fled like the Afghans at Kabul as the Taliban approached. It's sh#tty and not right for Ukraine to cede anything, but reality sucks.So when do they stop ceding territory? The next time Putin wants a chunk (and you know he will) just give him those too? How about the ethic Russians can go back to Russia if they would rather live under the thumb of a totalitarian quasi dictator.
Let me as you, would you be ok with Quebec leaving Canada? They are practically ethic French. Hell their official language is French.
Russia will be back, so I'm suggesting that Ukraine cede the pre-war territories in order to buy time. In Crimea Ukraine hardly fired a shot, they did nothing to defend the territory, and fled like the Afghans at Kabul as the Taliban approached. It's sh#tty and not right for Ukraine to cede anything, but reality sucks.
Had Quebec voted to exit in the 1995 Referendum all Canadians would have let them go without any bloodshed or drama necessary. Instead we would have renegotiated the constitution to create whatever new relationship the two sides wanted. Self determination is important.
Because when this war inevitably ends with some agreement of terms between the two countries, Russia will break it and attack again. As long as Russia exists as an autocratic, grievance-wrought militaristic failed state that sees an opportunity no matter how slight or fantastical, they will always be back to try again.And why is Russia back again?
Because when this war inevitably ends with some agreement of terms between the two countries, Russia will break it and attack again. As long as Russia exists as an autocratic, grievance-wrought militaristic failed state that sees an opportunity no matter how slight or fantastical, they will always be back to try again.
Because when this war inevitably ends with some agreement of terms between the two countries, Russia will break it and attack again. As long as Russia exists as an autocratic, grievance-wrought militaristic failed state that sees an opportunity no matter how slight or fantastical, they will always be back to try again.
Which strikes me as all the more reason to not cut a deal, especially if it gives up bridgeheads in Eastern Ukraine that could be used in any continuation of this war in years to come.
The best card Ukraine holds is promising to not join NATO, but clearly Putin won't believe that.
Stopping the killing is of course a laudable goal. Kicking the can down the road, which allows the Russians to reconstitute their forces, not so much, imho.
I agree, but regime change is not within the abilities of the Ukrainians. Russians will fight like Ukrainians if they're now defending their own homes and families. Besides, if Ukrainian forces take one step outside of Ukraine's borders the West will worry about an escalation and tell the Ukrainians to stand down. No one is invading Russia to the point that the Kremlin falls without provoking a nuclear strike.You are correct, and people like Putin (aka a bully) only understand being pushed back. If Ukraine was long term security and peace it needs to fight back until Putin is defeated and gone, which will only happen when his people have had enough. Giving up and letting him "win" will not drive his people to remove him.
I agree, but regime change is not within the abilities of the Ukrainians. Russians will fight like Ukrainians if they're now defending their own homes and families. Besides, if Ukrainian forces take one step outside of Ukraine's borders the West will worry about an escalation and tell the Ukrainians to stand down. No one is invading Russia to the point that the Kremlin falls without provoking a nuclear strike.
Nuff said...No one is invading Russia
I'm wondering how many of those "Russian separatists" still prefer Russia over Ukraine. Not the ones imported by Putin.I can see them ceding Crimea. Not so sure about the Donbas.
Here we go! These Ruskies are funny guys!
A Russian lawmaker wants Alaska back. 'Good luck with that!'
Mar. 17—A Russian parliament member has called for the return of Alaska to Russian, prompting a quick dismissal from Alaska politicians and others. The statement came as Russian President Vladimir Putin has attempted to rewrite history in an effort to explain away his war in Ukraine. But Russia...news.yahoo.com
And 4) No one will mess with the Ukraine for a long long timeAnd 3) made sure that the whole world is now aware of Ukraine as a separate, independent nation with its own language, culture, government and people. Putin has essentially put Ukraine on the map.
There was no information about this anywhere, my thoughts are rather yes than no.Is this a coordinated effort between drone operator and ground forces? If so, that's cutting edge work. Nice. That infantry carrier didn't explode like I anticipated.
Here we go! These Ruskies are funny guys!
A Russian lawmaker wants Alaska back. 'Good luck with that!'
Mar. 17—A Russian parliament member has called for the return of Alaska to Russian, prompting a quick dismissal from Alaska politicians and others. The statement came as Russian President Vladimir Putin has attempted to rewrite history in an effort to explain away his war in Ukraine. But Russia...news.yahoo.com