Agreed. Anything else is Neville Chamberlainisque…
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Agreed. Anything else is Neville Chamberlainisque…
I think so as well. Regardless we are witnessing serious implications to Russian and global history.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
If nothing else, Putin has done two things for the world outside Ukraine:
1) given NATO another 4 or 5 decades of life, and
2) put China on notice that its retaking of Taiwan will probably not be in accordance with the schedule they would like to see.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Indeed - *if* the League of Nations had lived up to their mission and leaned on Hitler when he attempted to annex the Sudentenland (shades of Donbass anyone?), then the dominoes of Czechslovakia, Austria and Poland would not have fallen.
You do not try to give a rabid dog hugs and kisses and hope all is well ever after...
Would be interesting to know how they wanna reach russian soil. Shipping to St Petersburg and then all the way down to Ukraine? To Syria then somehow airlift them? They can't get into Black Sea unless they want to drag Turkey into the war on Ukraine's side.
Japan says it spotted Russian amphibious ships heading toward Europe
Japan said on Thursday it spotted four Russian amphibious ships in waters close to its shores on Wednesday. The Japanese military said the four ships sailed in the Tsuruga Strait that separates Japan's Honshu island and Hokkaido island, an unusual move for Russia, Reuters reported.The ships are...www.yahoo.com
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
As of 28 February, Turkey closed the Bosphorus to all warships except those based in the Black Sea in accordance to the Montreaux Convention.Japan says it spotted Russian amphibious ships heading toward Europe
Japan said on Thursday it spotted four Russian amphibious ships in waters close to its shores on Wednesday. The Japanese military said the four ships sailed in the Tsuruga Strait that separates Japan's Honshu island and Hokkaido island, an unusual move for Russia, Reuters reported.The ships are...
So not sure what good any of those ships (and cargo) will do, if they can't reach the Black Sea.
It's definitely an interesting development
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Wonder if the Russian Navy will try and test Turkey's authority...
The Basket
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The options for peace are dependent on what the options are.
Now you may be 100% right. I maybe 100% wrong.
Maybe Putin cannot be trusted but there is now a difference. Putin is in a jam. So it's now no longer his word but his circumstances that are dictating the rules.
He is now in a very weak position so getting a peace treaty is possible. So the West must capitalize on this weak position to get the best deal.
If you get 5 years peace then that is something.
You must remember as long as the war goes on more and more civilians will be killed. Going down in flames should not be on the table. I don't really care if this may be weak sauce.
Hitler wanted to go down in flames and that's what he did. Doenitz, oddly, didn't want to go down with the ship and signed what he could to stop the war.
Now you may be 100% right. I maybe 100% wrong.
Maybe Putin cannot be trusted but there is now a difference. Putin is in a jam. So it's now no longer his word but his circumstances that are dictating the rules.
He is now in a very weak position so getting a peace treaty is possible. So the West must capitalize on this weak position to get the best deal.
If you get 5 years peace then that is something.
You must remember as long as the war goes on more and more civilians will be killed. Going down in flames should not be on the table. I don't really care if this may be weak sauce.
Hitler wanted to go down in flames and that's what he did. Doenitz, oddly, didn't want to go down with the ship and signed what he could to stop the war.
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
It's not like the Russians have been brilliant in their logistics to begin with.
Only Putin getting out on favorable terms only kicks the can down the road. He will learn fron this, correct his problems, and come back again even stronger and more dangerous. That is why appeasement does not work.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Slovakia says it would give Ukraine its air defense systems if it gets ‘proper replacement’
Slovakia’s defense minister on Thursday said the country would “immediately” provide its S-300 air defense system to Ukraine if it’s guaranteed a “proper replacement” in the near term. Jarosla…
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How many Patriot batteries do we have in Germany? Enough to provide loaners until a more-permanent replacement can be provided? The Greeks and Bulgarians also field the S-300, perhaps they could provide some loaners in addition or instead of the Patriots, which would obviously require American manning?
Only after Hitler was gone…
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Appeasement almost always emboldens, rather than deters, future aggression. If nothing else, the 30s taught us that.
I give them the benefit of the doubt for the 30s. They had just come out of WW1 and hind sight is always 20/20. Today we have no excuse though. We have Chamberlain to thank for teaching us what not to do.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Right, they were feeling their way through those tough times, but the one great thing about hindsight is that it is the basis for learning. Only fools ignore hindsight in more modern times, because history always has something to teach us.
That's why the apparent lack of institutional memory in the Russian army is to me so baffling.
Glider
Captain
I have to be honest I did like this
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Russian state propagandists laugh at new 'correspondent' Tucker Carlson in Colbert sendup
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I have to be honest I did like this
Russian state propagandists laugh at new 'correspondent' Tucker Carlson in Colbert sendup
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Tucker Carlson is a disgrace. He is Putin's employee of the month.
Blinken joins Biden in accusing Russia of war crimes; 21 people killed by rockets: March 17 recap
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