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We will never know. Future historians will try to estimate, probably.I'm wondering how many of those "Russian separatists" still prefer Russia over Ukraine. Not the ones imported by Putin.
I believe I mentioned they would want Alaska back up thread.
That could be considered an attack on a NATO member. Putin's navy could be improved into a number of artificial, albeit polluted, reefs.Wonder if the Russian Navy will try and test Turkey's authority...
Several years ago the Turks shot down a Russian fighter that went into their airspace. They will not mess around.That could be considered an attack on a NATO member. Putin's navy could be improved into a number of artificial, albeit polluted, reefs.
Not being either Canadian or Québécois, I don't get a vote on that, but it's fundamentally different for Québec to leave Canada than for somebody to invade Canada to "liberate" the province.So when do they stop ceding territory? The next time Putin wants a chunk (and you know he will) just give him those too? How about the ethic Russians can go back to Russia if they would rather live under the thumb of a totalitarian quasi dictator.
Let me ask you, would you be ok with Quebec leaving Canada? They are practically ethnic French. Hell their official language is French.
Not being either Canadian or Québécois, I don't get a vote on that, but it's fundamentally different for Québec to leave Canada than for somebody to invade Canada to "liberate" the province.
Putin says he is liberating a[nd] protecting them.
Just had to, LOL!Let me ask you, would you be ok with Quebec leaving Canada? They are practically ethnic French. Hell their official language is French.
I'm not giving them any befit of the doubt. None. Neither did Churchill. And the US position towards Nazi Germany was even more reprehensible, right up until Pearl Harbour.I give them the benefit of the doubt for the 30s. They had just come out of WW1 and hind sight is always 20/20. Today we have no excuse though. We have Chamberlain to thank for teaching us what not to do.
Hitler said just as much about protecting Germans in Sudetenland. Hitler wasn't trustworthy, and neither is Putin. We now know better and should do what steps we can to shut this down ASAP -- having history as a guide.
I'm not giving them any befit of the doubt. None. Neither did Churchill. And the US position towards Nazi Germany was even more reprehensible, right up until Pearl Harbour.
I'm not giving them any befit of the doubt. None. Neither did Churchill. And the US position towards Nazi Germany was even more reprehensible, right up until Pearl Harbour.
I'm specifically talking about the appeasement prior to WW2. Europe was still recovering from the horrors of WW1. Nobody wanted another costly war.
You and I have the benefit of hind sight, and the ability to objectively judge the actions taken. Had an entire genetation of our sons been butchered in the trenches, we might be thinking this differently.
Aw c'mon, man! I was composing a similar post mentioning Sir Neville buying time. I was going to throw in Chain Home. I was even about to write "Sir Neville gets a lot of stick..."The other factor is that, in 1938, Britain was in no fit state to go to war against Germany. At that time, Fighter Command comprised just 25 squadrons, most of which were still biplanes. At the time of the Battle of Britain, the RAF had 63 fighter squadrons, almost all equipped with Hurricanes and Spitfires. The speed with which Britain was re-arming in the late-1930s often gets forgotten. It was galloping to regain some sort of parity with Germany, and it was a race it barely won even with the outbreak of war in September 1939 when there were just 18 Hurricane squadrons in Fighter Command.
With a massively outnumbered, outperformed and outgunned fighter force, zero strategic bombers, and an outnumbered army, it's tough to see what Britain could have done to deter Hitler in 1938. It's particularly hard to see how Britain could have stopped Germany advancing into the Sudetenland. The only option would have been to band together with France and attack Germany...and that was not politically viable given the vivid memories of the Great War.
Chamberlain gets a lot of stick but he bought critical time for Britain to continue re-arming. It's also worth remembering that no other leader of a major power was doing anything more aggressive to deter Hitler. Lumping all the blame on Chamberlain's shoulders is unfair.