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Thumpalumpacus said:
He strikes me more as Churchillian, but then Lincoln didn't have the advantage of electrical communications to common folk. Zelinskyy's using his communications to marshal his country, on point, with a clear message. That's something Lincoln couldn't really understand given the technical limitations of the day. Zelinskyy understands that. He is, after all, a performer -- and that is not a criticism. He knows how to work an audience.

In any event, the sonofabitch knows how to move people, and that's exactly what Ukraine needs right now: a leader who isn't cowed, who inspires.
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The reason why I'm thinking of Lincoln is that there is war in the middle of his country. Both led from their capitols within the sound of gunfire. Both trying to reunite their nations with the lands taken from them. Lincoln led a "Team of Rivals" to get the job done (great book BTW).
President Zelenskyy is more popular than President Lincoln was, IMO. FDR and Winnie certainly could rouse their countrymen and President Zelenskyy is definitely an inspiring leader. Zelenskyy was interviewed before the invasion (really, check the link in Dimlee's post, # 2339). When questioned why wasn't he massing at the border to defend he replied "You focus on the sexy things...." The Ukrainians were building defense in depth. Was the President a brilliant tactician or let those who know run the show? That's where I see parallels with President Lincoln. Leading from the front with his guys.
 
Voicing an opinion over Tucker Carlson is not politics. He is just an ignorant mouth piece. I can care less what his network or political leaning is. Notice the post had nothing to do with left vs. right, or any political party.

Stop bringing up the sheepish left vs. right and liberal vs. conservative political BS. You can go to your political forums and do that.

Stop getting triggered over nothing.
 
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SaparotRob said:
The reason why I'm thinking of Lincoln is that there is war in the middle of his country. Both led from their capitols within the sound of gunfire. Both trying to reunite their nations with the lands taken from them. Lincoln led a "Team of Rivals" to get the job done (great book BTW).
President Zelenskyy is more popular than President Lincoln was, IMO. FDR and Winnie certainly could rouse their countrymen and President Zelenskyy is definitely an inspiring leader. Zelenskyy was interviewed before the invasion (really, check the link in Dimlee's post, # 2339). When questioned why wasn't he massing at the border to defend he replied "You focus on the sexy things...." The Ukrainians were building defense in depth. Was the President a brilliant tactician or let those who know run the show? That's where I see parallels with President Lincoln. Leading from the front with his guys.
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I think all three -- Lincoln, Churchill, and Zelinskyy -- earn a judgment of greatness simply for holding a country together through trying times.

I haven't yet watched Dimlee's vid (that's on deck in an hour or so) but I doubt Z was designing the defensive strategy; that's why he's got generals.

I don't think Lincoln led from the front. I think his particular skill was getting rid of the deadwood so that talent could percolate upwards. He went through how many generals in the first two years? But once he got the A-team together, there you go.

None led on the battlefield much, though Churchill had a bit in WWI. Their real leadership shows up in how they marshal a battered country to struggle through tough times. Z has got more hard times in front of him and we'll see how he does. But I think his head and his heart are both in the right place.
 
www.yahoo.com

Russians are blocked at US border, Ukrainians are admitted

About three dozen would-be asylum seekers from Russia found themselves blocked from entering the U.S. on Friday while a group of Ukrainians flashed passports and were escorted across the border. The scene reflected a quiet but unmistakable shift in the differing treatment of Russians and...
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Main logistics supply are trucks.

So you need a vehicle to convoy and escort the trucks.

Maybe this escort vehicle should be armoured. With some form of weapons.

In my view, the modern tank would reinvent itself time and time again.

Maybe the main battle tank could go but some form of armed armoured escort vehicle is necessary.

The effect of modern anti tank weapon is certainly having consequences as the tank cannot move for fear of getting splashed. Same with helicopter as modern manpads mean helicopter cannot be used in transport or combat role either.
 
The Basket said:
Main logistics supply are trucks.

So you need a vehicle to convoy and escort the trucks.

Maybe this escort vehicle should be armoured. With some form of weapons.

In my view, the modern tank would reinvent itself time and time again.

Maybe the main battle tank could go but some form of armed armoured escort vehicle is necessary.

The effect of modern anti tank weapon is certainly having consequences as the tank cannot move for fear of getting splashed. Same with helicopter as modern manpads mean helicopter cannot be used in transport or combat role either.
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Control the air, and suppress the anti-tank fire. Infantry guards against close-in attacks. Tanks kill strong-points, or provide flanking maneuver. Convoy rolls. Not sure what I'm missing here?
 
The Basket said:
Main logistics supply are trucks.

So you need a vehicle to convoy and escort the trucks.

Maybe this escort vehicle should be armoured. With some form of weapons.

In my view, the modern tank would reinvent itself time and time again.

Maybe the main battle tank could go but some form of armed armoured escort vehicle is necessary.

The effect of modern anti tank weapon is certainly having consequences as the tank cannot move for fear of getting splashed. Same with helicopter as modern manpads mean helicopter cannot be used in transport or combat role either.
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That's the benefit of smart weapons - you can stand off and lay accurate fire outside of their defensive hardware range.

Russia is suffering a high loss rate with their aircraft because they are using dumb-fire weapons, which require getting low and slow to have any chance at accuracy.

So here we are in the 21st century and Russia is doing no better with their ground attack than they did in WWII...
 
Thumpalumpacus said:
Without air or infantry support, sure. Combined arms, they certainly have a valuable role.

These videos speak more to the ineffectiveness of Russian practice than they do of armor in land warfare.
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The Marines got rid of them out of doctrine. Per Marine Commandant Gen. David H. Berger, should armor be needed by Marines, he would look to the Army to provide that capability.

At the annual Modern Day Marine Military Expo in September 2020, Berger emphasized that the Army's job is to be big, heavy and lethal while Marines must be light and expeditionary.

Army is huge," he said. "We need a big Army. They win our wars. The Marine Corps doesn't win the wars. We win the battles."

But the heavy emphasis specialization has some retired Marines and others in defense circles questioning the change might be an overreach that would diminish the Corps' versatility — a selling point for the service for much of its modern existence.

www.marinecorpstimes.com

Goodbye, tanks: How the Marine Corps will change, and what it will lose, by ditching its armor

Commandant Gen. David H. Berger has said that should armor be needed by Marines, he would look to the Army to provide that capability.
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The marines not having organic armor is almost as bad as the army pretending that light wheeled vehicles can be substituted for armor. The Stryker is a death trap in anything other than Low Intensity Conflict and even then IED's would make me very nervous. The performance of the BTR-80 in the Russian forces shows their vulnerability.
 
There's more to that Canada story about marking up that Russian draft proposal. After the Russian UN ambassador tweeted thanking Canada for their "kindergarten-diplomacy", our ambassador Bob Rae tweeted back "What tragically the Russian Federation knows about kindergartens is how to blow them up."



We need to settle this with a hockey game again.
 
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Crimea_River said:
There's more to that Canada story about marking up that Russian draft proposal. After the Russian UN ambassador tweeted thanking Canada for their "kindergarten-diplomacy", our ambassador Bob Rae tweeted back "What tragically the Russian Federation knows about kindergartens is how to blow them up."



We need to settle this with a hockey game again.
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Crimea_River said:
There's more to that Canada story about marking up that Russian draft proposal. After the Russian UN ambassador tweeted thanking Canada for their "kindergarten-diplomacy", our ambassador Bob Rae tweeted back "What tragically the Russian Federation knows about kindergartens is how to blow them up."



We need to settle this with a hockey game again.
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That was an epic burn!!

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DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Oh boo fucking hoo. Poor him. He does not know how to live? Now you know how the majority of the world lives. Yet he still has a $3,300 a month allowance allowed by the sanctions. Pathetic piece of shit.

www.businessinsider.com

A billionaire Russian oligarch says he doesn't know how to live 3 weeks after being hit with sanctions

Mikhail Fridman has an allowance of $3,300 per month and has to apply for a license to the UK government to spend money, he told Bloomberg.
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"Poor" little bastard. Take him out behind the barn and give him a freshly ground jalapeno pepper enema.
 
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