"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Now, if Ukraine had the aircraft for them. The good stuff.
France Ramps Up Support for Ukraine with Delivery of 600 Precision-Gui
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Well there is the ongoing rumour of Mirage 2000s which should be pre-certified to use.
Ukraine ‘Expects’ Ex-French Mirage 2000 Fighters. ‘We Are Talking,’ Zelensky Says.
Which Mirage model the Ukrainians might prefer depends on what they want to do with the jets: shoot at Russian jets or strike Russian targets on the ground and at sea.
www.forbes.com
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Yeah, but are there pilots certified to fly Mirage 2000s?Well there is the ongoing rumour of Mirage 2000s which should be pre-certified to use.
Ukraine ‘Expects’ Ex-French Mirage 2000 Fighters. ‘We Are Talking,’ Zelensky Says.
Which Mirage model the Ukrainians might prefer depends on what they want to do with the jets: shoot at Russian jets or strike Russian targets on the ground and at sea.
Thanks to all the killjoy grownups here, I have to ask;
Are there pilots qualified to fly them? Are the necessary parts and equipment there? Is the necessary support staff for them there?
(Yay! I just don't want another rainbow.)
EU cash for Ukraine: The bloc agrees on a €5B weapons fund
Kyiv is desperate for aid, but getting the EU deal meant having to finesse objections from France, Germany and Hungary.
Scholz, Macron and Tusk to meet in Berlin to hash out differences on Ukraine
Summit comes amid heightened tensions between Berlin and Paris.
Relevant given it shows how Russia is using these groups and others:
www.politico.eu
Europe’s farmer protests have been fertile ground for Russian propaganda
While starting at the grassroots level, the protests have been keenly exploited by Russia to sow division and undermine popular support for Ukraine’s defense.
That's part of the reason why these discussions take time
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Makes me wonder if Macron's comment about western troops in Ukraine may have been a thinly veiled comment about French pilots flying the Mirage fighters that Ukraine is supposedly receiving...
Glider
Captain
One observation on this video. Nowhere in that video did I see any modern computerised machine tools or cutters. All the lathes were being set by hand, all the pieces being finished were being done by hand.
Look at any modern production line, and the output would dwarf what seemed possible with that factory.
Glider
Captain
I admit to not being a fan of the Mirage 2000. An additional aircraft with its inevitable support structure, in limited number of an old almost obsolete aircraft, that doesn't match the F16 in performance, is the last thing that Ukraine need.
Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
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- Feb 27, 2020
Of course all you said is very true. But maybe other questions may be good also:
- Are those Mirage better than the current MiG-29, Su-24 & Su-27 that UAF uses today?
- Could they use more modern armament?
- There are enough soviet legacy aircraft & spare parts available? An obsolete aircraft must be more useful that not aircraft at all.
Don't forget that the F-16s that are bound for Ukrainia would not be Block 70s, would be some retired ones:
Yes they would be. the Mirage 2000 is roughly equivalent of the F-16 and would presumably be C/D variants. So long as they also get spares and other logistics support.
No need if given the same weapons France uses such as MBDA MICA and others
Indeed, so far I believe there are 61 F-16s promised with all being F-16AM/BM Block 15 MLU which include upgraded cockpit and avionics to the equivalent of that on the F-16C/D Block 50/52; add the ability to employ radar-guided air-to-air missiles; and to generally enhance the operational performance and improve the reliability, supportability and maintainability of the aircraft. Key upgrades include a modular mission computer with faster data processing, an advanced IFF system that allows "BVR weapons delivery in excess of radar limits," and an improved radar—the APG-66(V)2A.
Russian defectors fighting for Ukraine are attacking their motherland and rolling across the border in tanks: reports
"We are not coming to kill, erase, or punish. We come to live, to liberate you from poverty," said the Freedom of Russia Legion, a paramilitary group.
www.businessinsider.com
Snautzer01
Honourably banned
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Russians destroyed another Himars .... sort of
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsm8E06X1ek
wasted an expensive ballistic missile on a decoy
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsm8E06X1ek
wasted an expensive ballistic missile on a decoy
