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However if the Russians firmly believe that the threat of a nuclear war would stop any retaliatory action from NATO, then they have carte blanche to use chemical weapons without any consequences. Sanctions are probably almost as tight as they can be, so there is little room for adjustment. so some form of action will be needed.

Yes, Glider, rightly so. The problem we face is that the Russians don't have the same regard for NBC weapons and their impact as we do. It is within their doctrine that the use of nuclear weapons in particular can and will be used outside of the counter strike scenario - in 1993 the Russians dispensed with the no-first strike pledge the Soviet Union maintained - and the same is with chemical weapons.

They are looking for an excuse to use them already by making false claims about the US establishing factories in Ukraine - this is the Russians making bogus excuses to "justify" their actions, - the war itself is based on the premise that Nazis run Ukraine, again a bald lie designed to convince the Russian people of why they are doing what they are doing. These things are not for the rest of the world, but designed to convince the Russian people of why the government is ordering this destruction.

In the most recent link I posted, NATO Secretary Genera Jens Stoltenburg stated that NATO will supply counter-NBC equipment to Ukraine, which ominously means that NATO won't do much else beyond the intent to send peace keeping troops into the country, which the Russians have responded with a global nuclear war threat. This of course mean that NATO probably won't do anything more.

The Russians, sadly, regard human life with a much smaller value than we do.
 
Yes, Glider, rightly so. The problem we face is that the Russians don't have the same regard for NBC weapons and their impact as we do. It is within their doctrine that the use of nuclear weapons in particular can and will be used outside of the counter strike scenario - in 1993 the Russians dispensed with the no-first strike pledge the Soviet Union maintained - and the same is with chemical weapons.

They are looking for an excuse to use them already by making false claims about the US establishing factories in Ukraine - this is the Russians making bogus excuses to "justify" their actions, - the war itself is based on the premise that Nazis run Ukraine, again a bald lie designed to convince the Russian people of why they are doing what they are doing. These things are not for the rest of the world, but designed to convince the Russian people of why the government is ordering this destruction.

In the most recent link I posted, NATO Secretary Genera Jens Stoltenburg stated that NATO will supply counter-NBC equipment to Ukraine, which ominously means that NATO won't do much else beyond the intent to send peace keeping troops into the country, which the Russians have responded with a global nuclear war threat. This of course mean that NATO probably won't do anything more.

The Russians, sadly, regard human life with a much smaller value than we do.
Frighteningly informative.
 
Interesting evaluation of "nazism" and the Azov battalion in Ukraine:




Interesting highlights for me were the decline in extreme right-wing election results such that those parties garner less of the vote than, for example, Marine Le Pen's party in France. The study of Azov Battalion social media accounts is also quite telling. People spout a lot of crap on social media and I can't imagine any strident nazi/anti-semitic views not emerging in those narratives.

Good video. One small correction is needed. Russia did not just "back" separatists in the East as said at 01:50 but actually installed those so-called separatist regimes after a series of small scale invasions and coups in several cities, all done either by mercenaries from Russian Federation or by FSB and GRU units.
As for Azov, they have media channels where information about them can be learned without intermediaries. Youtube, Telegram, etc.
 
Meanwhile, in the Ukraine:

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Zelensky, in remarks after President Biden met with senior Ukrainian officials in Poland the day before, denounced the West for its "ping-pong about who and how should hand over jets and other defensive weapons to us," The Associated Press reported.
"I've talked to the defenders of Mariupol today. I'm in constant contact with them. Their determination, heroism and firmness are astonishing," Zelensky said in a video address, according to the AP, mentioning the seized Ukrainian city.
"If only those who have been thinking for 31 days on how to hand over dozens of jets and tanks had 1 percent of their courage," he added.
Western allies have provided Ukraine with anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, small arms and protective equipment, Reuters noted, but the military aid has not included fighter jets, which Kyiv has requested on a number of occasions. Earlier this month, the Pentagon said Poland's proposal to transfer MiG-29 fighter jets to a U.S. air base in Germany so they could be sent to Ukraine was not "tenable."




Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Sunday that his country would consider neutral status as part of a peace deal if the such an agreement was guaranteed by third parties and put to a referendum.

"Security guarantees and neutrality, non-nuclear status of our state. We are ready to go for it. This is the most important point," Zelensky said, according to Reuters.

Zelensky also said that his country was considering using Russian language in Ukraine as part of its talks with Russia, but the president refused to discuss Moscow's other demands.

His remarks came in a 90-minute video call with Russian journalists. Russian authorities had previously warned Russian media that they should not report on the call, Reuters noted.

Over one month into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova said on Sunday that a failure to preserve Ukraine's sovereignty would mean that "brutality, oligarchy and war criminals prevail on our planet."



I agree with Madame Ambassador -- the failure to stop Putin here will mean that the order and security of international relations will be overturned, just as Allied indecision in the mid-30s encouraged further depredations and further weakening of the LoN, which then eventually led to WWII.
 
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"Security guarantees and neutrality, non-nuclear status of our state. We are ready to go for it. This is the most important point," Zelensky said, according to Reuters.

Zelensky also said that his country was considering using Russian language in Ukraine as part of its talks with Russia, but the president refused to discuss Moscow's other demands.


This is good news and looks to be a light at the end of the tunnel. Russia will be pleased with the neutrality bit, but not with Ukraine remaining under Zelenskiy's government. Putin wants a Russian puppet governor like Yanukovich, but I do hope that doesn't happen.

Russian heavihandedness toward its own media in plain sight here.

Zelenskiy's criticisms of the West's approach to the conflict are understandable to a point. Unfortunately for Ukraine, the best the West/NATO can do it is already doing, short of provoking war with Russia, which for obvious (nuclear) reasons would be a bad thing.
 
This is good news and looks to be a light at the end of the tunnel. Russia will be pleased with the neutrality bit, but not with Ukraine remaining under Zelenskiy's government. Putin wants a Russian puppet governor like Yanukovich, but I do hope that doesn't happen.

Russian heavihandedness toward its own media in plain sight here.

Zelenskiy's criticisms of the West's approach to the conflict are understandable to a point. Unfortunately for Ukraine, the best the West/NATO can do it is already doing, short of provoking war with Russia, which for obvious (nuclear) reasons would be a bad thing.

I agree with everything you've written. Zelenskyy is trying to both mollify the Russians into leaving Ukraine alone while preserving his own position and making sure that Ukraine can stay on the road to self-determination via the democratic process. His criticisms of us in the West are very understandable, and he has got to say them if he wants to retain the trust and privilege of giving voice to the Ukrainian people -- because no doubt many Ukrainians are saying this much to themselves already and he'd be dishonest to ignore them.

As for the Russian control of their own media, it bespeaks fear on the part of Putin's government. If their cause was truly righteous, he would not be afraid of facts. Whenever we see media repression on this scale, we may rest assured that we are seeing a government that is terrified of the facts coming out and undermining its legitimacy (as if Putin's gov't has any left, lol).
 
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