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If it's an own goal over Ukrainian-held territory can we really claim the F-16 was shot down during a combat mission?

Any mission in a combat zone is considered a combat mission regardless of whether enemy contact is made or its intended purpose. The hours logged by the pilot/crews is also "combat hours."

I am sure it is similar in most countries (but I'm not certain), so for example we would log:

1. Normal flight time - when flying in a non-hostile region, for example a training flight in the United States.

2. Imminent Danger time - when flying in a non-combat zone, but there is the possibility of hostile fire for example when flying over Kosovo as part of the KFOR NATO Peace Keeping mission

3. Combat time - when flying anywhere in a combat zone regardless of the purpose or mission.

Just as an example I have over 600 hours of combat time logged, but very little of it involved a "combat flight such as an air assault, most of it was flying troops and supplies between bases. During that time though we were fully armed, loaded, and ready to fire at all times.

I also have like 400 hours of imminent danger time logged while in support of peace keeping missions, but our weapons were stowed and never loaded. We had them on board incase we were fired upon, but never needed them.
 
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The Russian military command may have redeployed limited elements intended to reinforce Russia's priority offensive operation in the Pokrovsk direction to defend against the Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast — suggesting that operational pressures from the Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast are impacting Russian operations in every sector throughout the theater. Russian sources, including social media users, claimed on August 14 and 17 that at least a company of the Russian 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade (2nd Combined Arms Army [CAA], Central Military District [CMD]) redeployed from the Pokrovsk direction to Kursk Oblast.[1] Select Russian and Ukrainian open-source communities also stated that unspecified elements of the 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade redeployed to Kursk Oblast.[2] Elements of the Russian 15th Motorized Rifle Brigade have been committed to Russian offensive operations in the Pokrovsk direction. ISW observed reports that elements of the brigade are operating east of Pokrovsk in mid-August and as recently as today.[3] A volunteer-led OSINT organization Evocation.info stated on August 19 that Russia has also redeployed elements of the 1st "Slavic" Motorized Rifle Brigade (1st Donetsk People's Republic [DNR] Army Corps [AC]) from the Donetsk direction to Kursk Oblast, and ISW observed claims that elements of the brigade were operating in the Toretsk and Pokrovsk directions in late July and August 2024.[4] ISW has observed no indications that these redeployed elements were previously engaged in frontline combat in Russia's assessed priority Toretsk and Pokrovsk direction, and the Russian military command likely remains extremely averse to pulling combat effective units from frontline areas in these directions.[5] The redeployed units were likely reserve units that the Russian military command intended to use to reinforce the Russian grouping in these directions and stave off the threat of pre-mature operational culmination, however.

 

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