fubar57
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Steady......
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It's about 1,000-1,100 km flight from Ukraine's front lines to Kaspiysk. The 2,000 km has been reached earlier. Distance from Kaspiysk to Tehran is about 1,000 km over the Caspian Sea, around Azeri oil fields.
I doubt it.Let's be brutally honest. The war to save Ukraine was just lost. They will be stabbed in the back and front now. NATO will effectively die.
Oh wake up!I doubt it.
If I were the Georgians or Moldovans, now is your chance to rise up and force out the Russian separatists. You won't get another chance this generation.Ok guys, let's stop with the doom and gloom.
I disagree ....somewhat. I suspect the war will be frozen, as it was after 2014, with the Russians retaining what they have stolen to date. This will be accomplished by basically threatening Ukraine with the cessation of all aid. The Russians will obviously disregard any treaty obligations they make and will immediately start stirring up problems. The rump Ukrainian state will do one of 2 things: 1. Decide they have had enough and that existing as a Russian vassal is better than being dead; or 2. Start a nuclear program RFN. Ironically, North Korea shows them the benefits of having nuclear weapons .... no-one f**ks with you. I could also see them negotiating defence treaties with individual European countries, i.e., PolandLet's be brutally honest. The war to save Ukraine was just lost. They will be stabbed in the back and front now. NATO will effectively die.
I think that what we are afraid of is that the USA will try a "peace for our time" solution. We all know how well that went last time, since we're all on this forum.Ok guys, let's stop with the doom and gloom.
Even if the U.S. stops support, other nations will continue theirs.
Plus, Putin bringing in DPRK troops has unwittingly created a powerful ally for Ukraine in the form of South Korea, who also is not a NATO member, so if they wanted to send troops, Putin cannot cry foul.
Okay, that's enough about this topic. I know it's hard as it's a bit like a crippled discussion without it, but we need to stay away from someone's internal politics as much as possible.The decisive victory yesterday was Putin's ... and Xi's for that matter.
We'll see. What could be rushed over that would matter? Ukraine is f#cked.Hopefully Biden will stop slow-rolling shit now that the writing's on the wall.
Funding.We'll see. What could be rushed over that would matter? Ukraine is f#cked.
This has always been the goal of the once and future American president. A Europe willing and capable of defending itself, rather that expecting Big Brother across the pond to do it for them and then resenting our presence.I think that what we are afraid of is that the USA will try a "peace for our time" solution. We all know how well that went last time, since we're all on this forum.
Afaics, the only thing safeguarding from this will be that Europe finally cleans up their own political mess and start acting as an independent power. But I'm afraid, that's far away.
I'll leave it at that, since I don't want this to end up as a debate of anyone's internal politics.
Sure, it's our own mess to clean up. This is Europe's fault, not the USA'sThis has always been the goal of the once and future American president. A Europe willing and capable of defending itself, rather that expecting Big Brother across the pond to do it for them and then resenting our presence.
Open the flood gates. Give them everything they want and then some.Hopefully Biden will stop slow-rolling shit now that the writing's on the wall.
While Europe can and will ramp up their own defence investment I fear that the individual countries involved will focus first and foremost on their own needs since they will be bracing for Russia's next attack. If I was any of them, especially Poland and the Baltic states I would also be looking at getting nukes. And deal with the traitorous Hungary etc too.I think that what we are afraid of is that the USA will try a "peace for our time" solution. We all know how well that went last time, since we're all on this forum.
Afaics, the only thing safeguarding from this will be that Europe finally cleans up their own political mess and start acting as an independent power. But I'm afraid, that's far away.
I'll leave it at that, since I don't want this to end up as a debate of anyone's internal politics.
Hell, even give Ukraine nukesOpen the flood gates. Give them everything they want and then some.