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i think PAF was and is fully committed to such trade and removing all MIG and Su from inventory - unfortunately in this case politicians are making decisions not soldiers - i think continuation of discussion in this matter is somehow pointless.I reckon it's a hell of a lot easier to source F-16 parts even without that sort of investment, especially when we're asking Russia for parts to repair airplanes flying against them. NATO builds the parts in Norway and Holland, no need for stores-ships, no need to beg parts from a Russian government we're fighting to repair the -29s, and the Ukrainians can either fly or cannibalize them as they see fit.
That alone makes trading -29s for -16s look nice. The goddamned F-16s can actually fly? And we can resupply? Sign me up! Give the MiGs to the Ukrainians, backfill with F-16s, it's all good.
It always cracks me up how the 70s sci-fi space fighters all seem to have air inlets. The little one in the foreground looks like a MiG-21 with a bad case of blueballs, to me, lol.
...I'd trade MiG-29s for F-16s any day of the week.....Yes, really. The onboard avionics of the F-16 are more independent of ground direction, implying fewer support personnel and less infrastructure for command & control.
The -16 seems to have better weapons available for air-to-air (four AMRAAMs vs 2 Alamos for the -29 for medium range, 4 AIM-9s vs 6 Archers for short-range work), and is more capable in CAS, carrying a broad variety of PGMs.
It's also data-link compatible with NATO AWACs craft, which I'm not sure the Polish -29s are up-to-date on given that they haven't seen much recent use.
The supply of spare parts is also much more reliable, especially given current affairs, meaning that the F16s will probably spend more time actually flying.
So yeah, I'd gladly make that swap if I were in charge of the PAF.
Aha! Found it.
How To Win In A Dogfight: Stories From A Pilot Who Flew F-16s And MiGs
Lt. Col. Fred "Spanky" Clifton is one of the most experienced aggressor pilots ever, having flown the F-15, F-5, F-16 and the notorious MiG-29. He's been in dogfights with pretty much every fighter out there and is a graduate of the prestigious Fighter Weapons School. Now he's here to share his...jalopnik.com
Spanky on my first Fulcrum BFM.My first BFM with a MiG-29 was against Spanky. More later, I have to do a Nassau turn…
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Spanky on my first Fulcrum BFM.
The Luftwaffe had taken over the ex. NVA MiG 29's, so Luftwaffe decals and numbersflying a german MiG-29 ?
It was never in US service - the US Major was invited to evaluate the Luftwaffe owned MiG 29'sOr was it so new in US service they forgot to remove german tactical numbers?
Could very well be, since all remaining Luftwaffe MiG 29's were handed over to the Polish air-force in 2004According to a site this a/c should be #4109 in Poland now
i think PAF was and is fully committed to such trade and removing all MIG and Su from inventory - unfortunately in this case politicians are making decisions not soldiers - i think continuation of discussion in this matter is somehow pointless.
There's the whiney bitch again...Russia says footage in Ukraine's Bucha was 'ordered' to blame Russia
Zakharova said the immediate Western outcry over the images of dead civilians indicated the story had been part of a plan to sully Russia's reputation. "In this case, it seems to me that the fact that these statements (about Russia) were made in the first minutes after these materials appeared...www.yahoo.com
A number of MiG-29s were purchased by the US from Moldova. At least one was operated by the USAF for test purposes. At least 3 are operated by private individuals.It was never in US service - the US Major was invited to evaluate the Luftwaffe owned MiG 29's
When they say "Russia lost equipment", I'm assuming that they're including equipment apropiated by the Tractor Brigade, too.