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So I prefer a couple of well chosen articles/clips over this.
But that's me personally. Not sure how other members see this.
I fully agree with your sentiment on your last paragraph and agree quite a bit with the rest as well. And thanks for the compliment, it means a lot. The job in general is not always easy and only recently I tried to throw the towel. Only the team didn't let me…Marcel , firstly, I want to thank you and the other mods (particularly DerAdlerIstGelandet ) for your patience with us on this challenging thread. You do an amazing job managing a thread that clearly sets emotions running.
I also think you do yourself a disservice. I can't recall a single post of yours that has been deliberately offensive or factually incorrect. You've always posted content that has sought to inform and enlighten rather than tear down.
I have no problems debating with people who think America should pull out of Europe, stop getting involved in international affairs, spend more money CONUS etc etc. I get frustrated when folk won't engage reasonably to discuss those topics, even when couched in historical precedents (e.g. appeasement, isolationism etc.).
The nub of the problem is that we're in an era of (to quote Rudy Giuliani) "alternative facts" and there's no willingness, in certain quarters, to even debate whether information is accurate or not. In this case, there was an article posted that was full of inaccuracies and misrepresentations. Efforts were made to point out the fallacies but instead of engaging in the discussion, Bill just turned and ran. We could have done a better job articulating our concerns with the content but, equally, there has to be a willingness by the other party to listen...and, frankly, they aren't.
My biggest fear for civilized society is that we seem increasingly incapable of discussing facts, let alone striving to find common ground. The internet has become a megaphone for people to scream their preconceived perceptions at ever greater volumes and, unfortunately, the sheeple are following blindly.
I do much the same. I might check out the first 30 seconds or so ..... if that doesn't get me interested, on I goI simply don't have the time to watch fifteen or so videos a day, and no way to figure out which ones are useful vs which ones aren't, so I scroll past them. I generally do that on any forum for videos that are posted without context or commentary from the poster.
You may always leave a short comment about that when posting a linkI would add that I dofind it frustrating at times that many articles/videos have misleading, click-bait style titles which often detracts from the actual content. Alas, I can't change that
Putin will be happy
US intel ban leads to heavy Ukrainian losses
The recent decision by the United States to suspend military intelligence sharing with Ukraine has reportedly resulted in significant setbacks for Ukrainian forces, allowing Russian troops to advance along a critical segment of the frontline, according to TIME. “As adefence-blog.com
Fair question. I suppose I would offer the following:
- In the case of videos, not everyone absorbs information by just reading
I fully agree with your sentiment on your last paragraph and agree quite a bit with the rest as well. And thanks for the compliment, it means a lot. The job in general is not always easy and only recently I tried to throw the towel. Only the team didn't let me…
But my point is this: we cannot control what the other side is doing. We can only control what we do ourselves. The only thing I am asking is to keep respect. This can be in small things, like adding "I think" to the sentence "you're wrong"and accept it if the other does not bend to your point of view.
If someone wants to run they will and there is no stopping them. We cannot force someone to listen.
I completely agree. Well done, contributors, and thanks to the dedicated moderatorsPeople may not notice this but if you look at the bottom of the page it says "Users who are viewing this thread". It shows Members and Guest. This thread always has the most guests and I suspect it might be viewers from other sites that have had their Ukraine thread locked. I've seen a few. That we have survived almost 1900 pages is nothing short of spectacular.
I love the thread.If you don't like the thread, you don't need to be here
Well said, sir! OK, 'Well written' actually.......I could rip some new ones if I let my politics fly. I don't, because 1) I love this forum too much to earn a ban over such tawdry crap, and 2) even when I disagree with guys likedrgondog or Peter Gunn , I've got too much respect for them. There's also #3, that this thread is very informational and I don't want to be the dickweed that gets it shut down.
I'm happy to speak my piece. I'm also happy to walk the chalk line.
I've never said it is. Read my post again, I said I would like this debate to be respectful and always remember that what's obviously false to you is not always so obvious for someone else. And to accept that one or two posts from you will probably not be enough to bridge that difference.I appreciate that not everyone has the same politics on here but I think that it's not unreasonable to question people's sources of information if there are obvious flaws with it.
Oh, I would never want to miss the opportunity to make fun of you when we beat the German teamAndMarcel , you are going nowhere. You are my Dutch brother here. Besides the World Cup is coming up next year, we have to continue our friendly football rivalry.