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Warspite63
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I couldn't agree more ........
Thumpalumpacus
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Sentries are global assets. Replacing them with regional assets may save money, but imo the degradation of capability is absolutely dumb.
There are no Cyrillic words, only Cyrillic letters. And there are Bulgarian, Russian, Polish and other words of various Slavic languages written in Cyrillic, Latin or other alphabet. Is it so hard to understand the difference between alphabet and language?
GrauGeist
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Ahh, ok, I get it - Slavic languages are all the same, just different alphabets.
Thanks for explaining that.
Thumpalumpacus
Lieutenant Colonel
Other way around -- the languages are different, but use the same alphabet (more or less) -- much like French and English use the same alphabet, and even share cognates, but are quite different languages.
Slavic languages are related, like English and German are, or to a lesser extent English and French, but what little I know about Slavic languages tells me that they are definitely not the same, just as English and German aren't the same. All these languages are evolutionary codescendants from one tongue or another. As they evolve, they differentiate. For instance, Latin has three major daughter languages: Italian, Spanish, and French. They all use essentially the same alphabet, and share many if not most of the same cognates (think word roots/word origins/concepts), but are separate languages. I'm pretty sure Polish, Russian, Hungarian, and so on are in that sort of basket,
It's probably easier for a Pole to learn Russian than it would be for you or me, because the languages have a closer evolution.
Indeed, in linguistics, we can sometimes estimate the date of separation by the amount of differences, much like being able to estimate the closeness of a biological clade by the similarity of its DNA.
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Bingo! Moreover, some Slavic languages use different alphabets - for example, Belarusian originally had Cyrillic alphabet, then there were variants of writing with Latin alphabet (based on Polish) and even Arabic(!!!) - when a part of Crimean Tatars moved to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
GrauGeist
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The point I had originally intended, before this became a circle-jerk, is that of the spoken language based on the people who use the Cyrillic alphabet: (Bulgarians, Ukrainians, Russians, etc.), the Bulgarian accent is much softer than Russian.
That was my point.
That was my point.
GrauGeist
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You'd be surprised at how easy Bulgarian was to learn.
The difficulty I had, though, is learning to roll the back of the tongue as opposed to the Latin/Germanic style of rolling the tip of the tongue.
Like all things, it just takes practice.
Thumpalumpacus
Lieutenant Colonel
There are Latin cognates in Slavic languages too, and I can recognize them even in Russian, which was least influenced by the Roman Empire. It gets confusing when we start thinking about transported words, where modern English words with Latin roots are adopted by other languages.
I'll take your word on how to work your tongue. The gals I've known don't seem to mind American Southern dialect.
Spoken Cyrillic...
I don't get it: either Poles and Czechs are no longer Slavs, or they communicate with each other in writing only.
PS. F..., how many new and interesting things you can learn about the philology of Slavic languages from those who don't speak them.
I don't get it: either Poles and Czechs are no longer Slavs, or they communicate with each other in writing only.
PS. F..., how many new and interesting things you can learn about the philology of Slavic languages from those who don't speak them.
GrauGeist
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Well, being a native Southern Californian, Spanish comes easy, so when I was learning Bulgarian, I kept trying to "roll" my R's as if I was saying "rojas", "rapido", etc.
My sweetheart, Rozitsa (Rosi/Роси for short) was very patient. She said make a "grrrrrr" sound and feel your tongue, then let air travel through your nose. This is how you do it.
by God, it worked.
GrauGeist
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Aparently you missed my point I was making to another member and feel that you have to dwell on the subject.
My point (again and again and again) is that the Bulgarian accent is softer to the ear than that of a person speaking Russian.
Now can we PLEASE get back on topic?
Thumpalumpacus
Lieutenant Colonel
My gals would regularly ask me to roll my Rs, yep. I learnt Spanish in Spain where that is taken serioso.
Now back to our regular programming?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
By the way, this may be related:
It appears that Israel has launched a series of attacks on Iran today (Friday), which may cause diminished hardware support for Russia as tensions escelate.
https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-attack
It appears that Israel has launched a series of attacks on Iran today (Friday), which may cause diminished hardware support for Russia as tensions escelate.
https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-attack
Actually, Russia adopted many cultural traditions from Byzantium, which was the Eastern Roman Empire. In particular, the Orthodox religion.
swampyankee
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As said above: there are no Cyrillic words. There are languages that use the Cyrillic alphabet to write words from that language. The Cyrillic alphabet is associated with some, but not all, Slavic languages.
As an aside, not all European languages are that closely related. Most European languages are Indo-European, but Basque, Finnish, Saami, Hungarian are not.
Funny how a statement like this gets out of hand quickly on the internet
Let's go back on topic
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