buffnut453
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A bit of video clearly take n at the same time as my prior post about the Moskva. It's not really helpful but doesn't loon fake to me:
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"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)
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Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Or opened for ventilation?
buffnut453
Captain
Or to get rid of the helo so there isn't yet another flammable object onboard?
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
Right. I haven't had my coffee yet, but they don't seem damaged.
Admiral Beez
Major
Does the Ukrainian ability to hit the Russians at sea open up opportunities to send reinforcements or supplies to those besieged at the coastal Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol? Perhaps small boats could approach at night? Too bad the Ukrainians don't have some makeshift fast attack boats armed with Neptunes.
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buffnut453
Captain
Another pic of the Moskva showing the damage a little better. Seems like the bridge and radar mast aren't as badly hit as it may have seemed in the earlier photo:
Jagdflieger
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From what I gather - the Mariupol defenders are pinned down inland at a steel-plant - with no access to the harbor. And the Sea of Azov is entirely controlled by the Russians.
Even a kind of Commando raid might be possible, but I do not see how this could help the remaining defenders.
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Jagdflieger
I don't think they can help them much anymore, helo supply drops might not work anymore as well. a potent soviet commander would place a lot of radar and SAMs there to prevent that.
If they wanna do a commando raid (and still have soldiers and boats) they should destroy multiple sections of the Kerch strait bridge. This would be another nice blow to russian pride and prevents easy troop/supply transports via Crimea.
If they wanna do a commando raid (and still have soldiers and boats) they should destroy multiple sections of the Kerch strait bridge. This would be another nice blow to russian pride and prevents easy troop/supply transports via Crimea.
Admiral Beez
Major
Black Sea Fleet has taken a smack. Now, what of the Russian situation in the Crimea if a Ukrainian offensive cuts the land bridge to the Donbass?
Thumpalumpacus
Colonel
The greater threat is from the east. The Ukrainians should clear up the Donbas before thinking about ops in Crimea, imo.
Jagdflieger
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I don't believe the Ukrainian army has the manpower for such an undertaking - they are and need to be focused towards the Donbas and a renewed attack towards Kiev by
the Russians.
Regards
Jagdflieger
buffnut453
Captain
Lots of rocket/missile attacks by Russia against a range of Ukrainian targets overnight. The following reporting from the BBC uses a pic sourced from Reuters and appears somewhat confused. What the Reuters image cites as a Russian hypersonic ballistic missile looks like a bog-standard SS-21 to me. So either Reuters got it wrong, the BBC got it wrong, or Russia is claiming to use Iskander hypersonic missiles when they're actually using SS-21s (which are neither accurate or precise, nor are they hypersonic)....or Russia is using a mix of Iskanders and SS-21s:
Image caption: An unexploded short range hypersonic ballistic missile, similar to those Russia claims to have used on Monday (Source: Reuters/BBC)
Russian state media is reporting that its military struck a total of 315 targets in Ukraine overnight, with several cities bombarded on Monday.
Russia's defence ministry said it had destroyed four arms and military equipment warehouses in Ukraine overnight with Iskander missiles, a short-range ballistic missile, the TASS news agency is reporting.
"High-precision air-launched missiles destroyed 16 Ukrainian military facilities during the night," Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.
He added that Russian air defence systems shot down two Ukrainian fighters.
The BBC has not been able to independently verify these claims.
Image caption: An unexploded short range hypersonic ballistic missile, similar to those Russia claims to have used on Monday (Source: Reuters/BBC)
Russian state media is reporting that its military struck a total of 315 targets in Ukraine overnight, with several cities bombarded on Monday.
Russia's defence ministry said it had destroyed four arms and military equipment warehouses in Ukraine overnight with Iskander missiles, a short-range ballistic missile, the TASS news agency is reporting.
"High-precision air-launched missiles destroyed 16 Ukrainian military facilities during the night," Russian defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said.
He added that Russian air defence systems shot down two Ukrainian fighters.
The BBC has not been able to independently verify these claims.
Jagdflieger
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Once there is, we will know - because either the Russians will pull back or take tactical nukes into consideration. - so as sarcastic as it sounds, let's hope they do not run out
of conventional ammo, whilst the Ukrainians are denying them any further geographical exploitation. The $$ and a disillusioned population are going to bite Putin sooner or later.
That is why stuffing the Ukraine with weapons IMO is crucial, whilst in the meantime forcing both sides to negotiate.
Regards
Jagdflieger
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A "shotgun" attack to nail potential Zelensky hidey holes?
Glider
Major
I was just about to mention that. All that bad weather that so hindered the damage control and rescue activities
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Perhaps the Black Sea was especially wet that day.
buffnut453
Captain
In fairness, the statement about the ship becoming unbalanced is at least accurate.
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From the picture, she's shipped a lot of water, and probably not far from capsize. Better get the towing crew off.
