All good points, but one big difference is Hitler was facing invading Allied armies from both sides. Putin is facing a proxy war because the West is afraid to call his nuclear card.
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All good points, but one big difference is Hitler was facing invading Allied armies from both sides. Putin is facing a proxy war because the West is afraid to call his nuclear card.Putin's invasion has galvanized the free world against Russia much like Germany galvanized the world against it eight decades ago.
The West is enjoying the best of both worlds. They get to use their latest weapons to stomp and humiliate a clearly militarily obsolete and incompetent Russia whilst not overly risking a nuclear war. If you're a Western government, especially its Defence and State Departments, or even better, a Western arms manufacturer, what's not to like? Plus they get to show a flick of the sword to warn China and reassure Taiwan that territories that breakaway from despots to become western democracies will be supported/defended.All good points, but one big difference is Hitler was facing invading Allied armies from both sides. Putin is facing a proxy war because the West is afraid to call his nuclear card.
This is exactly what I feared would happen. The UN boss is going to call for a ceasefire, gallingly deciding to meet with Putin before Zelensky!
We must end the war - UN secretary general tells Lavrov
And Putin might just say sure, and then keep all the territorial gains. The UN boss should instead be demanding that Russia return the seized territory. Ukraine must not accept a ceasefire while their territories been held. They'll lose the Peace for certain if they do.
If you recall, prior to the U.S. entry into WWII, the U.S. was supplying material to Britain as they were managing to hold off Germany.All good points, but one big difference is Hitler was facing invading Allied armies from both sides. Putin is facing a proxy war because the West is afraid to call his nuclear card.
If you recall, prior to the U.S. entry into WWII, the U.S. was supplying material to Britain as they were managing to hold off Germany.
Then when Germany turned on the Soviet Union, the Allies provided material to them.
The entire world is sending aid to the Ukraine, not just "the West".
If the world had responded to Poland the same way in 1939, things would have been quite different.
If you recall, prior to the U.S. entry into WWII, the U.S. was supplying material to Britain as they were managing to hold off Germany.
Then when Germany turned on the Soviet Union, the Allies provided material to them.
The entire world is sending aid to the Ukraine, not just "the West".
If the world had responded to Poland the same way in 1939, things would have been quite different.
There's a big difference: geography. With Ukraine, the world can funnel supplies through the Polish border. In 1939, there was no way to get aid to Poland, aside from trying to force the Skagerrak with aid convoys past U-boats. I suppose you could ship to the Med and then across the Balkans, but by the time the first trainload arrives the Germans and Russians are toasting their success.
Furthermore, supplies would have had to be shipped through a friendly nation to get to Poland. There weren't any adjacent to Poland. Germany and the Slovakian puppet state and the USSR were hostile aggressors. Hungary and Romania were pro-axis neutrals. The Baltic was controlled by the German Navy.
I think Hungary at the time (summer 1939) was more pro polish and less Axis leaning.Furthermore, supplies would have had to be shipped through a friendly nation to get to Poland. There weren't any adjacent to Poland. Germany and the Slovakian puppet state and the USSR were hostile aggressors. Hungary and Romania were pro-axis neutrals. The Baltic was controlled by the German Navy.
Right now I'm reading all the LIFE magazines pertaining to the war years. Interesting to see what Life knew then and what we know now. The last issue I read had air spotter silhouettes for all U.S. military aircraft except the B-19 which was still top secret in 1941 according to LIFEDon't forget the US was training with broomstick machineguns and trucks for tanks. The first prototypes of WW2 workhorse aircraft were making their first flights & production lines being set up. What could we send?
Bolster Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia's defenses and use them as a supply corridor.
Don't forget the US was training with broomstick machineguns and trucks for tanks. The first prototypes of WW2 workhorse aircraft were making their first flights & production lines being set up. What could we send?
This is not the place. The point of this discussion is Ukraine. I disagree with your post but disagree more with taking threads off topic.Don't just disagree, explain why you disagree. Otherwise there is no point to the discussion.
This is not the place. The point of this discussion is Ukraine. I disagree with your post but disagree more with taking threads off topic.
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But it would be a good topic as a new thread. How to help Poland before Sept 1939?