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I don't want to wade into politics here, but it's a fact that conspiracist thinking here in America is adding to our national divide, and that Russian troll-farms have an active and traceable part in it.

I don't know about this cat, he may just be a nutter, or he may be on someone's payroll, I have no idea. I only know that applying Occam's Razor keeps me out of a lot of bullshit. I will leave it at that here, and if anyone has any questions please PM me rather than threaten the thread.
 
With Finland and Sweden now invited to join NATO, it may only be a matter of days[Hopefully] until they become full members. They sooner the better.
I notice that when the idea of Sweden and Finland were first reported as thinking of joining NATO, Putin made all kinds of threat as to what Russia would do if they formally asked. Then when they made the formal request there were less dire threats.
Now the road blocks are out of the way, its now, We don't mind if they join Nato as we have no territorial issues with Sweden or Finland (Despite this now turning the Baltic into a NATO lake, and cutting St Petersburg off) as long as NATO don't put any infrastructure into those countries.
What's the betting nothing would happen if NATO build some facilities there.
 

And yet Moscow continues with the same pattern, now threatening Turkey with consequences for agreeing to let Sweden and Finland into NATO:

 

 
its now, We don't mind if they join Nato as we have no territorial issues with Sweden or Finland (Despite this now turning the Baltic into a NATO lake, and cutting St Petersburg off) as long as NATO don't put any infrastructure into those countries.
I recall somewhere that Finland committed to not permanently basing NATO forces.
 
So now China's in NATO's crosshairs? That's a long way from the North Atlantic.


"Thanks a lot Putin, we were counting on Western complacency and disunity, plus their hunger for our cheap goods to cover our move on Taiwan, you dumb ass" said President XI.
 
There's a long history between Russia and Turkey and the Ottoman Empire, none of it good.
 
Or someone higher up finally got someone else to do a proper calculation: shall we try to reinforce this small island and risking more ships/helos to be lost or do we leavy this small rocky island as fast as possible?
 
Actually, Ukrainian defence is mostly mobile and maneuverable. It becomes static in certain places which are considered critical and are defended stubbornly as Severodonetsk recently. But this is just a small portion of a frontline.
As for who is going to buckle first... Russia has choices while Ukraine has none. It's fight or be eliminated situation for the nation.
 
June 30 (Reuters) - Russia's Deputy Security Council Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said on Thursday that in certain circumstances, sanctions against Moscow may be seen as an act of aggression and a justification for war.

"I would like to point out once again that under certain circumstances such hostile measures can also qualify as an act of international aggression. And even as a casus belli (justification for war)," Medvedev said, adding that Russia has the right to defend itself.



As my late stepfather Bob would say, "You've got the easy part done ... the talking."
 

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