"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (2 Viewers)
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Admiral Beez
Major
Does the Rhine to Danube canal help?
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
The interior of both the C-5B and C-17 are not large enough.
The An-225 *could* have transported one (if the boat's bridge structure were removed), but as we know, not possible, now.
Regarding the Rhine, the boats have a draft of 4 feet (they were designed to operate in very shallow water), so it might still be possible, especially if they have been lightened (weapons and other items remived and ahipped separately).
The An-225 *could* have transported one (if the boat's bridge structure were removed), but as we know, not possible, now.
Regarding the Rhine, the boats have a draft of 4 feet (they were designed to operate in very shallow water), so it might still be possible, especially if they have been lightened (weapons and other items remived and ahipped separately).
Admiral Beez
Major
Here's a C-5 Galaxy loading a 57 ton, 82ft long 17.5ft wide/high Navy Seal boat.
The US Navy Seal craft above is heavier and about the same size as Taiwan's Israeli-designed Hai Ou-class missile boats. Maybe some can be had from Taiwan or other operators, such as Slovenia, without upsetting Israeli's neutrality.
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
100,000 starving "volunteers" certainly won't be a problem for Russian logistics prowess. I'm sure all communication issues will be easily dismissed in the spirit of true proletarian brotherhood.
Will We See North Korean Forces in Eastern Ukraine?
How a military commitment by Pyongyang could materialize.thediplomat.com
I'd say at least 10% high tail it west as soon as they could.
fubar57
General
Surprised "Glorious Leader" would allow any of his troops to leave know the Western Running Pig Dogs are poised to invade at any moment
Admiral Beez
Major
More like all. Straight to the South Korean Embassy in Kiev, Ukraine.
at6
1st Sergeant
Since we are still legally at war with Kim Jong Pigsh!t's nation, why not add so many more sanctions that his turd regime collapses?
Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
Twitter rumour mill has several sources reporting Russian command on the southern front has withdrawn back over the Dnipro river, which may proceed a wider Russian withdrawal southwards, setting up the river as the new front line.
Has some interesting implications if it is true:
Would be a major battlefield defeat for Russia. It shows that Ukrainian offensive pressure and strikes on supply lines are strong enough to force a general withdrawal, admittedly on what had been a secondary axis of advance. Also this seems to be a bit of a special case, as the Dnipro provided a major natural chokepoint that the Ukrainans could use to their advantage. Replicating this elsewhere would be much more difficult.
Shortens the front lines considerably. The front north/northeast of Kherson covered better than 200 km. If Russia does withdraw over the Dnipro, it shortens the length of the front lines by ~100 km or more. I'm not sure who that benefits more, but a tighter front usually helps the defenders. It would free up Russian forces for redeployment, but it would also mean Ukraine secures a major section of its southern flank that it can cover relatively easily.
Signals an end to Russian offensive operations in the south, ending any land threat to Odessa. As most of the bridges across the Dnipro are destroyed/damaged, there's little chance of Russia resuming offensive operations northward.
Has some interesting implications if it is true:
Would be a major battlefield defeat for Russia. It shows that Ukrainian offensive pressure and strikes on supply lines are strong enough to force a general withdrawal, admittedly on what had been a secondary axis of advance. Also this seems to be a bit of a special case, as the Dnipro provided a major natural chokepoint that the Ukrainans could use to their advantage. Replicating this elsewhere would be much more difficult.
Shortens the front lines considerably. The front north/northeast of Kherson covered better than 200 km. If Russia does withdraw over the Dnipro, it shortens the length of the front lines by ~100 km or more. I'm not sure who that benefits more, but a tighter front usually helps the defenders. It would free up Russian forces for redeployment, but it would also mean Ukraine secures a major section of its southern flank that it can cover relatively easily.
Signals an end to Russian offensive operations in the south, ending any land threat to Odessa. As most of the bridges across the Dnipro are destroyed/damaged, there's little chance of Russia resuming offensive operations northward.
Glider
Captain
The Daily Telegraph are also reporting this move.
I have to say that the morale of those left to defend the city will have been hit by this if true. To see your leaders clear off to the safe side of the bridge will not help you. Also as the bridges are impasssible to heavy equipment, how much will be abandoned.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Does anyone know how many troops the Russians still have west of the Dnipro? How many are threatened with cutoff if this scenario unfolds as laid out above?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Looks like I picked the wrong war to quit smoking.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
I can guarantee you that if the Red Army's leaders suddenly moved back across the river and there's a sudden silence across the landscape, now is the time to start smoking, because shit's about to get real...
Thumpalumpacus
Major
"And who?" has to be resounding in the heads of the defenders left behind.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
The last Intel estimates I saw put the number of RF & separatist troops in the Kherson area at ~7,000 north of the Dnipro. That was about 2 weeks ago, and was referring to the troops that needed to worry about being out of supply or possibly cut-off in the near future.
Jabberwocky
Staff Sergeant
Reports vary.
Smallest estimate I have seen is 12,000. Largest is about 35,000. Western media, informed by Western intelligence estimates, is saying 20,000 plus. This includes everyone though - from boot polishers through to trigger pullers.
Forces identified in the area on the west bank of the Dnipro during August include elements of the 35th, 41st, 49th and 58th Combined Arms Armies, 7th and 76th Air Assault Divisions, 22nd Army Corps of the Black Sea Fleet and Russian internal security troops.
Dont forget that Russia has at least one ferry line operating across the river. It's possible they may do a Dunkirk and extract the men while abandoning their equipment. Or, they may fight on and the while thing fizzles out.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
The possibility of North Korean combat troops becoming involved is worrying - at least insofar as this would allow a supply of troops that would have little or no impact on the Russian populace in terms of morale if they take high casualties.
Intel estimates say that ~13% of RF combat troops (ie frontline/foxhole types) in Ukraine are currently refusing to attack/advance, AWOL, or being held under guard in rear areas pending decision what to do with them.
Intel estimates say that ~13% of RF combat troops (ie frontline/foxhole types) in Ukraine are currently refusing to attack/advance, AWOL, or being held under guard in rear areas pending decision what to do with them.
Admiral Beez
Major
Why do you write in such a cryptically nonsensical way? What are you trying to convey? Is Prigozhin dead?
two things out of this news has been confirmed - wagner's headquarter in Papasny have been destroyed and in the moment of attack Prighozin was at the building, so far no confirmation that he has been killed as well...
considering results of strike it will takes some time to confirm anything...
considering results of strike it will takes some time to confirm anything...
