The way things are going this thread could be a history of the last days of Putins Russia.
"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (4 Viewers)
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Escuadrilla Azul
Tech Sergeant
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- Feb 27, 2020
Once again Putin briefed at the tiny desk and holding the corner with the right hand.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
re the UK being the "closest target"
From what I have been reading, it appears that the Russian nationalist 'elite' are suffering from a combination of arrogance and self-originating propaganda.
It seems the idea is that the US and UK are the ringleaders/prime-movers behind opposition to Russia. The rest of NATO (and whoever) are followers of the US and UK political machines.
It is a bit insulting to the UK and other countries concerned.
Many of the Russian leadership consider the US to be a manufacturing problem and a meddling influence on the rest of the world, but that the US itself would fall apart under any real threat to the mainland.
Russia considers Britain to be the 'spine' of NATO (this has been a phrase used repeatedly in Russian internal discussions).
The rest of the EU & NATO are considered (by a majority of the Russian leadership) to be either unable and/or unwilling to stand up to Russian threat if left without US and UK influence. This attitude is particularly prevalent where the former Warsaw Pact countries are considered. It seems they hold the leadership and will of the people of Poland (for example) to resist in similar regard as they did that of the Ukrainians.
You would think that they would have wised up to the error in their equation after what has happened in Ukraine, but there seems to be a time lag among Russia's leadership in processing the implication of recent events, and understanding/accepting the lesson being learned.
There are reportedly quite a few of the Russian hierarchy that are not blind, but they have to be careful what they say around the 'true believers' and hence are reluctant to say anything at all.
From what I have been reading, it appears that the Russian nationalist 'elite' are suffering from a combination of arrogance and self-originating propaganda.
It seems the idea is that the US and UK are the ringleaders/prime-movers behind opposition to Russia. The rest of NATO (and whoever) are followers of the US and UK political machines.
It is a bit insulting to the UK and other countries concerned.
Many of the Russian leadership consider the US to be a manufacturing problem and a meddling influence on the rest of the world, but that the US itself would fall apart under any real threat to the mainland.
Russia considers Britain to be the 'spine' of NATO (this has been a phrase used repeatedly in Russian internal discussions).
The rest of the EU & NATO are considered (by a majority of the Russian leadership) to be either unable and/or unwilling to stand up to Russian threat if left without US and UK influence. This attitude is particularly prevalent where the former Warsaw Pact countries are considered. It seems they hold the leadership and will of the people of Poland (for example) to resist in similar regard as they did that of the Ukrainians.
You would think that they would have wised up to the error in their equation after what has happened in Ukraine, but there seems to be a time lag among Russia's leadership in processing the implication of recent events, and understanding/accepting the lesson being learned.
There are reportedly quite a few of the Russian hierarchy that are not blind, but they have to be careful what they say around the 'true believers' and hence are reluctant to say anything at all.
Admiral Beez
Major
Russia through its invasion has hugely boosted Ukrainian nationalism, linguistic/ethnic identity and global recognition. That's called unintended consequences.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
I admit that I had never thought that the Russian leadership would manage to alienate the other nations that endured the events of WWII, to the degree that they would begin tearing down memorials to the sacrifices of the Russian & Soviet Union peoples.
"https://www.google.com/search?q=eur...AgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz"
"https://www.google.com/search?q=eur...AgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz"
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Which hypersonics are you referring to? Because they have used Kh-47s against Ukraine.
Admiral Beez
Major
I was surprised there were any memorials left that survived the early 1990s.
buffnut453
Captain
Much of the Russian spoutage on NATO and the west smacks of mirror-imaging. They live under an autocratic dictatorship and thus they view the US and NATO through that prism, with the US mandating and the NATO Allies genuflecting and simply doing America's will.
Anyone who's sat in on NATO meetings can attest the inaccuracy of that view. The US doesn't dictate policy, military or otherwise, to its NATO Allies...and the NATO Allies themselves are not shrinking violets who simply toe the line. It takes so long to accomplish ANYTHING within NATO simply because of differing national positions across all the NATO Allies.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
If we go back to the early days of Russia's invasion, it was Poland who led the charge in Ukraine's assistance, not the US or UK.
It was impressive to see how quickly the European nations set aside their differences and immediately focused on getting help to the Ukrainians.
It was impressive to see how quickly the European nations set aside their differences and immediately focused on getting help to the Ukrainians.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
I think that guy is sweating bullets 'cause he's gonna' be eating one soon.
Admiral Beez
Major
I wonder what Russians think of the peaceful (POTUS45's nonsense aside) transition of power in the US. Since Putin came to power in 1999 the USA has had five Presidents. Do Russian's see this as weakness or strength?
buffnut453
Captain
To the "true believers" in Russia, democracy is inherently flawed and weak. Dissent and disagreement slow down decision-making, which offers advantages to centralized autocracies which can make decisions faster. In addition, the political divisions within democracies are fracture points which can be (and are) exploited by those autocratic governments that seek to disrupt democratic nations.
Ukraine makes push along entire front line as IAEA team heads for nuclear plant
As a team from the UN nuclear watchdog set off from Kyiv towards the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, Ukrainian troops continue attacks on Russian positions along the entire front line.
www.abc.net.au
Admiral Beez
Major
Have the Ukrainian Air Assault Forces played any roles since the invasion beyond regular infantry?
en.wikipedia.org
It would be something if a parachute attack as part of the Kherson offensive was undertaken in order to secure or prevent river crossings behind the Russian lines. This would presumably be one of the first large scale drops since 2003's Operation Northern Delay.
Ukrainian Air Assault Forces - Wikipedia
It would be something if a parachute attack as part of the Kherson offensive was undertaken in order to secure or prevent river crossings behind the Russian lines. This would presumably be one of the first large scale drops since 2003's Operation Northern Delay.
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MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Yep - that's me, the trouble maker... 
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
and proud of it I hope.
(I never say be good because that takes much of the fun out of life)
(I never say be good because that takes much of the fun out of life)
buffnut453
Captain
I try to be good about being bad...does that count?
