MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Good question - they have probably all been eaten
"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again."
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MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
It is a pity that the Ukrainians can't dump large truckloads of epsom salts into the water canal to Crimea once they recapture it and give the orcs the actual sh one t's as well as the figurative ones.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Ukraine suffered a comms outage when 1,300 SpaceX satellite units went offline over funding issues | CNN Politics
Ukraine's fears that its troops may lose access to Elon Musk's crucial Starlink internet service deepened in the past week after 1,300 of the military's satellite units went offline, according to two sources familiar with the outage.
The last paragraph is the killer As a result, Musk's control of the signal gives him significant sway over the battlefield at a time when he has come under heavy criticism for arguing that Ukraine should sue for peace and give up some of its territory.
Is Musk trying to force Ukraine to give up Crimea?
I am glad I do not use any of his products
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
If Musk is actually behind the blackout and subsequent manipulation of Ukraine military communications, he risks falling from favor in the public and stockholder's eye - not a wise move on his behalf.
As far as ding-dong Jong goes, he executed his defense minister and eleven musicians with anti-aircraft cannon. He then had tanks grind their bits into the ground.
He also executed his defense minister and others by Mortar.
He executed his deputy security minister and most of the minister's cabinet with flame throwers.
The guy is sadistic asshole that rivals Pol Pot.
As far as ding-dong Jong goes, he executed his defense minister and eleven musicians with anti-aircraft cannon. He then had tanks grind their bits into the ground.
He also executed his defense minister and others by Mortar.
He executed his deputy security minister and most of the minister's cabinet with flame throwers.
The guy is sadistic asshole that rivals Pol Pot.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
The optics of cutting Ukraine out of Starlink would work against the feelings of his consumer base in Tesla buyers and perhaps even NASA, given how the current administration has (gladly!) been pretty strong in supporting Ukraine.
Even if this is accidental, consumer response will probably trend to the negative simply because losing coverage from more than a thousand satellites is not a good look for a space company.
Either way, Musk will come out of this looking worse and perhaps suffering at the level of the bottom line.
I hope it goes without saying that I think he's a twatwaffle of the first order, a toxic combination of narcissism, expert syndrome, and being insanely rich. I hope the Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again and his takeover of Twitter kills that cesspool.
Even if this is accidental, consumer response will probably trend to the negative simply because losing coverage from more than a thousand satellites is not a good look for a space company.
Either way, Musk will come out of this looking worse and perhaps suffering at the level of the bottom line.
I hope it goes without saying that I think he's a twatwaffle of the first order, a toxic combination of narcissism, expert syndrome, and being insanely rich. I hope the Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again and his takeover of Twitter kills that cesspool.
Admiral Beez
Captain
Worse, Musk could see his companies or parts thereof expropriated and nationalized by the US govt. Washington won't put up with any crap from Elon, thinking either you're with us or against us, there is no squishy middle.
Elon Musk's company should be 'nationalized' for Ukraine, Atlantic writer argues
The Atlantic writer David Frum argued that Elon Musk’s company Starlink needs to be nationalized to continue to provide free internet to Ukrainian citizens.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Worse, Musk could see his companies or parts thereof expropriated and nationalized by the US govt. Washington won't put up with any crap from Elon, thinking either you're with us or against us, there is no squishy middle.
Elon Musk's company should be 'nationalized' for Ukraine, Atlantic writer argues
The Atlantic writer David Frum argued that Elon Musk’s company Starlink needs to be nationalized to continue to provide free internet to Ukrainian citizens.www.foxnews.com
I'm not sure the American political environment would support that, but for obvious reasons won't go any further.
Admiral Beez
Captain
It's rare, such as in WW1 when the US government nationalized all US railways and telephone systems. As for Elon, causing frustration to US government policy is only inviting trouble.
List of nationalizations by country - Wikipedia
Thumpalumpacus
Major
It's rare, such as in WW1 when the US government nationalized all US railways and telephone systems. As for Elon, causing frustration to US government policy is only inviting trouble.
List of nationalizations by country - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
But again, a different political environment, discussion of which differences would likely broach the rules. I do agree that whether intentional or accidental, this outage will hurt his brand a bit.
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at6
1st Sergeant
They are thrown to the dogs. Then Kim eats the dogs.
Admiral Beez
Captain
True, but imagine if pre-PH, Ford announced after agreeing to make thousands of trucks for lend lease for the USSR that half way through he'd changed his mind, and that Stalin should settle with Hitler. And such a move might not be so fantastical, Ford was a bit of a genius nutter himself.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
Forgive what may be an ignorant question, but did that actually happen?
Admiral Beez
Captain
No, that's just my mind. But Ford would have been nationalized, like Elon might be if he keeps screwing around.
These NATO refurb tanks must now be some of the best ever that rolled out of Russian factories. Too bad the reverse speed is still rubbish.
Thumpalumpacus
Major
No, nationalizing a corporation will not happen in modern America. We've wandered afield a little, and let's get it away from that political discussion, no?
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Ol' Henry, like Lindbergh and many other industrialists admired naziism for its social efficiency and discipline.
Greg Boeser
1st Sergeant
They never got to tour a concentration camp, where all the undesirables had been sent.
Admiral Beez
Captain
Agreed. But watch it Elon.
Thoughts on the best tanks in the Ukraine war? NATO L7-armed Slovenian M-55S vs. T-90M?
Ukrainian Forces Capture Russia's Most Advanced Tank
Photographs uploaded by an Ukrainian tanker show a Russian T-90M main battle tank captured after being abandoned by retreating Russian troops.
www.overtdefense.com
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Thumpalumpacus
Major
"Best crew" would be my guess.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Starlink *might* be nationalized *if* the U.S. were at war under a Federal Emergency Act, but it's not, so it won't happen.
What will happen, is Musk will lose market share sales and come under scrutiny if he keeps fooling around.
He's a narcissist first and foremost and is most likely trying to play hero and win a Nobel Peace Prize in order to up his street cred.
What will happen, is Musk will lose market share sales and come under scrutiny if he keeps fooling around.
He's a narcissist first and foremost and is most likely trying to play hero and win a Nobel Peace Prize in order to up his street cred.
MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Agree 100%
