"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (3 Viewers)

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Why have the Canadian Mounties not been committed?

Simple, political red tape…
 
If you told me 40 years ago that the Chinese and Iranian would pass Russia on the tech side I would say ain't going to happen.
Beleive it or not, Bulgaria was the tech center for the Soviet Union with their first computer in the 70's and even a computer that operated a robotic arm well before the U.S. and Japan developed one.

Once the Soviet Union broke up, they no longer had a tech pipeline with Bulgaria, so their homegrown systems started relying more on imported tech.
 
Russia history is interesting. They have always had an infereoraty complex. Always importing technology to appear strong as Europe. It started with Peter I or Peter the Great. He brought in industries. If I remember correctly, from a class a long time ago, peter I went to England to learn modern ship building and brought it home. He started their university etc. He died in the early 1700 for a point of reference. They have been trying to keep up ever since.
 

I was not aware of that but I know that India had phone banking close to ten years before Apple and Google "invented" it.

In India most workers and many small businesses could not meet the requirements to open a bank account and the law required staff to be paid by cheque or bank transfer. The cost of cheques was very high. To cash their cheques the workers had to pay up to 30% to a money changer. Some smart young IT people came up with method that allowed employers to deposit pays on a workers phone as a credit and for the phone owner to use the phone credits to pay for their shopping. Naturally small businesses and staff took to this very quickly and big business followed as they were losing customers. Everyone won except the banks and money changers.
 
If you told me 40 years ago that the Chinese and Iranian would pass Russia on the tech side I would say ain't going to happen.
I doubt that Iran is ahead of Russia but have little doubt that China is. But when you stand back and think of it, where are all the high end phones, computers, TV's are built. Chinese components are in every Airbus aircraft and production facilities are in place in China. China is as good as the best and ay well be the best when looking at 5G networks and how they are used.

Russia in nowhere close in any of these and other area's, so it cannot be any surprise that Russia is both behind and is falling further behind China.

Taking this concern further. Russia has a desperate need for weapons which only China can really supply. Fairly basic drones and dumb shells others can supply, but only China has the high end technology that Russia needs. How can Russia pay for it, it has no money and China is getting the oil and gas it needs.
Whilst I cannot see China supplying complete equipment such as tanks, I wouldn't be surprised if China doesn't supply components such as thermal finder and fire control systems for Russia to use when refurbishing old equipment. Personally I would rather be in a T62 with a modern Thermal system than a T72 without it, which brings us back to how would Russia pay for it.

The only thing that Russia has is its military design and technology such as Submarines. Even the latest Chinese subs are noisy by modern standards and noisier than Russian subs. I don't know about sonars but there is quite a good chance that Russia has the edge there as the Navy is a relatively recent priority for China. That cannot be a good development for those concerned about the growth of China.
 
What a change in the world over the past 50 years. Wonder how things will play out?
 
Check your facts:

  • Britain announced Challenger 2 tanks for Ukraine 20 Jan
  • US announced Abrams tanks for Ukraine 25 Jan
5 days is hardly a difference.
 

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