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I'd like South Korea to be involved but in a less obvious way. Through tech transfer, consulting, finance support, etc. And new supply contracts with Poland and other countries that can send then existing equipment to Ukraine.
Koreans have the same existential problem as Ukraine today and they need to be very careful.
South Korea does need to keep their military stocks up, especially with North Korea's latest provocations.
 
After the Ukrainians has expelled Russia and its influence from Ukraine, Russia's other neighbours, including Chechnya will want to do the same. Surely the people of Chechnya want to avenge or at least not forget the Russian's massacres at Grozny and elsewhere. Of course they have the added challenge that democracy and human rights like freedom of speech, religion and association, an open and free media, independent justice systems, etc. do not come easy to Islamist states.
... you, Admiral, are guilty of expecting the most optimistic, rational outcome from unfolding events. :cool:
Russia did not embrace liberal democracy when the West poured in after the collapse of the USSR.
China has not embraced liberal democracy, just its tools, education and opportunities, because Communism is theology-thought and, the CCP manages society with carrot and stick.
Chechnya has never been the least liberal or democratic. Tribal, Islam, Patriarchal. Communism probably WAS progressive when it overtook the country.
Georgia, another badlands country with great food, brandy and for would-be Stalin /Beria outlaws to hide out.
These states are like the Balkans, borders have been hard-fought, religion-politics have divided, memories are long and bloody-vivid. Best hope is managed stability and time.

What is certain is Russia has lost it - the big dog at the table isn't big. Xi is big. Xi wears his confidence well. Putin has sold Russia to China
and every little state will come to terms with China. Technology will race ahead and respect no boundaries, liberal or autocratic

China prefers stable borders and friendly neighbors. And, the CCP is still standing, trying to deliver the future to the world.
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... you, Admiral, are guilty of expecting the most optimistic, rational outcome from unfolding events. :cool:

That also goes for his understanding and expectations of government and military logistics.

He thinks heavy weapon deliveries should happen like this. :D

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We still love you though Admiral… :D
 
That also goes for his understanding and expectations of government and military logistics.

He thinks heavy weapon deliveries should have like this. :D

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We still love you though Admiral… :D
That's ridiculous!
But why can't the Ukrainians just 3d print whatever they need? Way easier than shipping heavy equipment overseas.
 

 
Autumn 2023? Why so long? The US complains that they're running out of artillery and rockets for Ukraine, but this dithering and holding back on systems that they will inevitably provide only prolongs the war and needlessly burns through more NATO stocks.
How many times must this be said: modern weapon systems such as tanks or fighter aircraft are not something one just 'hands over the keys' on and say go. To get the best from them, people need to be trained and logistics support needs to be addressed. This is why it has been easier to hand over Ex-Soviet/Russian systems which are already used.
 
How many times must this be said: modern weapon systems such as tanks or fighter aircraft are not something one just 'hands over the keys' on and say go. To get the best from them, people need to be trained and logistics support needs to be addressed. This is why it has been easier to hand over Ex-Soviet/Russian systems which are already used.

And there is a ton of political red tape that goes through the export of military items.
 
That also goes for his understanding and expectations of government and military logistics.
No, I get it, if Washington decides to send Abrams today it will be many months before their crews are trained, logistics, spares and support are in place, and only then can they even begin to consider being delivered. If the US thought Abrams were necessary why not commit to sending them when the Brits announced Challenger 2 back in January so that the tanks are in AFU hands in time for the spring 2023 offensive? Why announce Abrams now for delivery in autumn/winter 2023? By then much of the war will be decided.
 
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"... why not commit to sending them when the Brits announced Challenger 2 ...."
... different governments ... different priorities .... and shelf-lives. Democracies aren't congruent, You know your history, AB, stop wishful thinking
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