"All of Vlad's forces and all of Vlad's men, are out to put Humpty together again." (37 Viewers)

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Greg Boeser said:
Ya think old Putz broke a few fingers to keep him in line?
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Not necessarily. I was thinking more that if there is a chance (and this is probably just wishful thinking) of Lukashenko losing power be that through sickness or otherwise then it could be interesting to see what the Russian reaction would be. Imagine if Belarus were suddenly aligned with the Ukrainian side or at least not aligned with Russia, it would have implications. As I said though probably just wishful thinking...
 
GTX said:
Not necessarily. I was thinking more that if there is a chance (and this is probably just wishful thinking) of Lukashenko losing power be that through sickness or otherwise then it could be interesting to see what the Russian reaction would be. Imagine if Belarus were suddenly aligned with the Ukrainian side or at least not aligned with Russia, it would have implications. As I said though probably just wishful thinking...
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I can see that getting ugly real fast as Putin tries to reimpose "order". But the facade of invincible strength has been shattered. Putin's dream of rebuilding the Russian Empire is fading fast.
 
SaparotRob said:
I see it has an auto-loader. Does that mean it's a "Pop Top" too?
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No - the T-84 Oplot features a new welded turret with separate crew and ammunition compartments with blowout panels on the ammunition compartment, a new bustle-mounted autoloader.

Interestingly, they did also develop a version with a 120mm gun:

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Admiral Beez said:
My worry is that US interest in supporting Ukraine will take a dramatic and negative turn on 20 Jan 2025. Ukraine's supporting nations, Zelenskyy, Putin and Xii must all be aware that a change in the White House can change everything in this war. With this in mind, Zelenskyy has about eighteen months max to liberate all he can.
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Well there is one way to prevent that...:rolleyes:
 
michaelmaltby said:
... possibly more a reaction to what those soldiers have been indoctrinated to believe -their treatment by the enemy.
Kipling exhorted the British trooper in Afghanistan to "save the last round for yourself".
In Manchria, June-September, 1939, the Japanese took very few prisoners, because many Russians were terrified of being a Japanese POW.
The 'death over captivity" mentality is as old as military culture, IMO.
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Never underestimate the indoctrination on both sides. Right to the end my father hated Japanese due to the indoctrination he got in training yet he readily admitted that if they were half as bad as they were claimed to be he would have been killed by them when he was in hospital at Guadalcanal -- and his son in law is Japanese.
 
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