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ThomasP said:
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There are currently 113 nuclear reactors used for generating electrical power in Europe (not counting Russia at 36, Belarus at 2, or Ukraine at 15) with a further 9 units under construction in 4 European countries.
Belgium____________4
Bulgaria____________2
Czech Republic_____6
Finland____________ 5
France____________57 (+6 under refurbishment?)
Hungary___________ 4
Netherlands________1
Romania___________2
Slovakia___________ 5
Slovenia___________ 1
Spain______________7
Sweden____________6
Switzerland________ 4
United Kingdom____ 9

The United State currently has 93 nuclear reactors used for generating electrical power, with 3(?, might be 4) under construction.

Note that France sells their electricity to at least 8 other European countries - including Germany, who shut down their last reactor in 2023 partly due to politics and a push for alternate power generation and partly due to it being cheaper to get electricity from France while the push for the 'green' renewable energy is implemented. See "Q&A - Germany's nuclear exit: One year after." for a summary of the results.

Italy shut down its last nuclear reactor in 1990, partly as a reaction to the Chernobyl accident, and partly due to costs.

Lithuania shut down their last of 2 nuclear reactors (built under Soviet occupation) in 2009, primarily to reduce dependance on Russia.
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Add to that the 36 planned nuclear reactors, although that may take from 5 years to a decade and maybe not all are actually built.
Bulgaria 2
Czech Republic 4
France 6
Hungary 2
Poland 12 <--- going from 0 to 12. Considering its east neighbor, anyone guessing that, if the Eurobomb gets nowhere, Poland will get its own Bomb withing a decade?
Slovenia 1
Ukraine 7
UK 2
 
Greg Boeser said:
In Europe the Greens (another shade of red) have successfully shamed everyone into abandoning nuclear.
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Mostly Germans and Italians.

Speaking of reds and Greens. It is known that during the soviet union times, Euro greens and Euro left parties where infiltrated/manipulated against anything nuclear. In the same way that Russia is now manipulating antieuropeist right wing parties against a common European project. Some things never change.
 
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Thumpalumpacus said:
Pretty sure they can build their own by now.
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As already mentioned, both the UK and France have their own, locally developed/maintained, nuclear capability that does not rely on US involvement. Sweden has previously investigated developing its own. I am pretty sure the likes of Ukraine and Poland are looking into it as well. The technology is certainly within European capabilities.
 
re disposal of radioactive waste

Radioactive contaminates can be filtered out of water - but it costs money. We already have the technology and do this sometimes to harvest radioactive materiel from ocean-water.

Transporting the highly radioactive solid waste materiel is really the only mechanical stumbling block to disposal.

Mariana, Tonga, Kuril-Kamatcha, Philippine, and Kermadec Trenches are all deep-sea subduction zones. Dumping the solid and significantly heavier-than-water material (whether inherently solid and heavier-than-water or encased in concrete and suchlike) into the Trenches would result in the materiel slowly returning to the area below the Earth's crust in a million years or so with no risk to anyone (except maybe some deep sea lifeforms that live in the trenches). Godzilla would presumably be safe. :)

This has been suggested several times over the last 60 years or so but, here in the US at least, deciding who is going to pay for the transport is a political football, and getting international agreement on anything is almost impossible. The non-government owned energy companies are not willing to foot the bill.

There is also the question of corruption - how do we make sure the contracted agency actually dumps the materiel where they are supposed to?
 
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