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special ed said:
As one of the older members, I attended school in the 40s through 50s, then USAF 1 1/2 active plus 4 1/2 reserve. Therefore, the old schools taught the constitution through Civics classes & history. My father was is law enforcement and not required in WW2 as he was classed as a fingerprint expert. Long before computers. One of the things I always found curious was "the Gulf of Mexico". I live on the North American continent along with the United States of Mexico and Canada. The continent to my south is South America, while in between is Central America, so it always was obvious to me that the Gulf of Mexico should have been known as the Gulf of America, similar to the Indian Ocean or China Sea or Sea Of Japan named for their nearby countries or continents. I just didn't have a loud enough voice. I also feel the invader of Ukraine must leave before final peace is achieved.
Just my thoughts - I usually just sit in the room quietly.
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Ed you have to remember when the Gulf of Mexico was named, and what the map looked like in the 1700's Mexico Surrounded the entire gulf all the way to present day Florida.

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About the gulf names (from Wiki)

"Early 16th-century maps by Juan de la Cosa and Martin Waldseemüller described the gulf, though left it unlabeled. A 1584 map by Abraham Ortelius labeled it the "North Sea" (Mare de Nort). Hernán Cortés also called it by this name ("North Sea") in his dispatches, while other Spanish explorers called it the Gulf of Florida or "Gulf of Cortés". Other early European maps called it the "Gulf of San Miguel" (Latin: Sinus S. Michaelis), "Gulf of Yucatán" (Latin: Golfo de Iucatan), "Yucatan Sea" (Latin: Mare Iuchatanicum), "Great Gulf of the Antilles" (Latin: Sinus Magnus Antillarum), "Sea of Cathay" (Latin: Mare Cathaynum), or "Gulf of New Spain". At one point, the Viceroyalty of New Spain surrounded the gulf, and the Tierra Firme extended across what is now the southeastern United States.

The name "Gulf of Mexico" (English: Gulf of Mexico; French: golphe du Mexique, later golfe du Mexique) first appeared on a world map in 1550 and in a historical account in 1552. It has been the most common name since the mid-17th century, when it was still considered a Spanish sea. French Jesuits used this name as early as 1672. In the 18th century, Spanish admiralty charts similarly labeled the gulf as "Mexican Inlet" or "Mexican Sound." Until the separation of the Republic of Texas from Mexico in 1836, the Mexican coastal boundary extended eastward along the gulf to present-day Louisiana."

So Murica Gulf wasn't a name at any point. If it's ok for you, then good. The rest of the world will just call it Gulf of México anyway.

Reminds me of the Freedom Fries affair some 20 years ago.
 
Peter Gunn said:
But the reverse is true for me, I have very little clue in the workings of say, a Constitutional Monarchy so there's that.
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I found this to be an interesting remark. Living in a Constitutional monarchy myself, maybe I should try to clarify.
Actually there is not a significant difference between our constitutional monarchy and your constitutional republic. The basic difference is that head-of-state is also the executional head-of-state and politically elected. Here, our head-of-state is mostly ceremonial and used for PR. The prime-minister is the executional head-of-state, meaning that he is the one actively leading the government. Like your president, he is elected by the people. The King has no saying in the daily governing of the country, however he is sometimes used as an impartial mediator, being officially apolitical and above the parties.

This of course is the theory. But if you want to talk to the active head of the state, you talk to the prime-minister, not the king.

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This is getting quite a bit of air time at the moment.


"We watched your conversation with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskiy with horror and distaste," the letter said.

"We consider your expectations regarding showing respect and gratitude for the material assistance provided by the United States to Ukraine in its fight with Russia to be offensive," the letter continued.

"Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed blood in defence of the values of the free world."
 
buffnut453 said:
News today of the US pausing aid to Ukraine will take on added importance if the US also lifts sanctions on Russia. If that happens, then it's pretty clear that Washington won't be an honest broker and is simply sacrificing Ukraine.
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That's been obvious to observers watching this since Trump's campaign last year. It was only a matter of time. Like I said, there is only self-interest in this for the White House - its focus has nothing to do with Ukrainian security , or peace for that matter. It is designed to get praise for pushing for peace among MAGA supporters, like when Sergei Lavrov goes up in front of the UN and spouts off about Nazis in Ukraine and Ukraine starting the war - it's dog-whistle politics designed to assure the loyal fans back home that they are the victims in all this.
 
special ed said:
As one of the older members, I attended school in the 40s through 50s, then USAF 1 1/2 active plus 4 1/2 reserve. Therefore, the old schools taught the constitution through Civics classes & history. My father was is law enforcement and not required in WW2 as he was classed as a fingerprint expert. Long before computers. One of the things I always found curious was "the Gulf of Mexico". I live on the North American continent along with the United States of Mexico and Canada. The continent to my south is South America, while in between is Central America, so it always was obvious to me that the Gulf of Mexico should have been known as the Gulf of America, similar to the Indian Ocean or China Sea or Sea Of Japan named for their nearby countries or continents. I just didn't have a loud enough voice. I also feel the invader of Ukraine must leave before final peace is achieved.
Just my thoughts - I usually just sit in the room quietly.
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Gulf of America totally wrecks Johnny Horton's "Battle of New Orleans".
 
special ed said:
As one of the older members, I attended school in the 40s through 50s, then USAF 1 1/2 active plus 4 1/2 reserve. Therefore, the old schools taught the constitution through Civics classes & history. My father was is law enforcement and not required in WW2 as he was classed as a fingerprint expert. Long before computers. One of the things I always found curious was "the Gulf of Mexico". I live on the North American continent along with the United States of Mexico and Canada. The continent to my south is South America, while in between is Central America, so it always was obvious to me that the Gulf of Mexico should have been known as the Gulf of America, similar to the Indian Ocean or China Sea or Sea Of Japan named for their nearby countries or continents. I just didn't have a loud enough voice. I also feel the invader of Ukraine must leave before final peace is achieved.
Just my thoughts - I usually just sit in the room quietly.
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It was named before the United States existed and when large parts of what is now the US (CA and TX and a swag of other parts) were parts of Mexico.
 
Marcel said:
I found this to be an interesting remark. Living in a Constitutional monarchy myself, maybe I should try to clarify.
Actually there is not a significant difference between our constitutional monarchy and your republican monarchy. The basic difference is that head-of-state is also the executional head-of-state and politically elected. Here, our head-of-state is mostly ceremonial and used for PR. The prime-minister is the executional head-of-state, meaning that he is the one actively leading the government. Like your president, he is elected by the people. The King has no saying in the daily governing of the country, however he is sometimes used as an impartial mediator, being officially apolitical and above the parties.

This of course is the theory. But if you want to talk to the active head of the state, you talk to the prime-minister, not the king.
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And pretty much the same applies to the British Commonwealth countries as well except the head of state is the Governor General, not the Monarch. The GG liaises with the Monarch but is not subservient to him/her.
 
On Ukraine JD Vance made a partially correct statement. He neglected to say that Britain and France had some small wars that the US was not involved in that they WON. Everyone knows of the very wonderful successes he would claim the US had in both Afghanistan and Vietnam and about what he obviously considers the massive failure Britain had against Argentina. It also seems Vance treats France's successes in Africa as American wins.

Therefore, to be far more correct, Vance should have said something like "than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't lost as many wars as the USA in the last 30 or 40 years."

I have heard more than one person say that the American "security guarantee" for Ukraine is about as safe as a condom with the end cut off.

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