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I find the comment that the if the draft texts of the minerals agreement Trump tried to push Kyiv into signing "were accepted Trump's demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles treaty that ended World War I " to be very telling. Doubly so when the aggressor, Russia, has seemingly not been expected to pay anything.

Imagine similar done at the end of WWII: Ok Germany and Hitler, you started the war, killed millions, committed warcrimes a plenty and now that you've been beaten, we will tell France, Poland etc and those that you didn't exterminate to pay up for rebuilding...
 
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGdi8g3tSas

I find the comment that the if the draft texts of the minerals agreement Trump tried to push Kyiv into signing "were accepted Trump's demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles treaty that ended World War I " to be very telling. Doubly so when the aggressor, Russia, has seemingly not been expected to pay anything.

Imagine similar done at the end of WWII: Ok Germany and Hitler, you started the war, killed millions, committed warcrimes a plenty and now that you've been beaten, we will tell France, Poland etc and this that you didn't exterminate to pay up for rebuilding...
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That is a truly staggering fact. Warfronts has a lot of credibility (as far as I'm concerned) and provides insightful and intelligent commentary on a whole range of geopolitical happenings - I have no hesitation to accept their analyses as factual
 

Judging by some of the headlines today in Russia, Moscow believes that the latest telephone conversation between Presidents Putin and Trump went well - certainly for the Kremlin.

"Putin and Trump agreed to work together on Ukraine resolution," concludes Izvestia.

"Record-long Putin-Trump call," declares Komsomolskaya Pravda. The paper's website adds: "As things stand Russia has scored a diplomatic victory here."

Why are some in Russia claiming "victory" after this two-hour phone call?

Probably because, by the end of it, Vladimir Putin hadn't been pressured into making any major concessions to Ukraine or to the United States. On the contrary, he had - in effect - rejected President Trump's idea of an immediate unconditional 30-day ceasefire.

[...]

Not only did Moscow not agree to an unconditional ceasefire, President Putin set his own pre-conditions for peace.

They include an end to Western military aid to Kyiv and intelligence sharing with the Ukrainians, as well as a halt to mobilisation in Ukraine. Such conditions are widely viewed as a way of securing Ukraine's capitulation.

It's hard to see Kyiv agreeing to any of that.

But could the Trump administration eventually be persuaded, by Moscow, that such conditions are acceptable? And if so, would Washington force Ukraine to accept them?

www.bbc.com

Rosenberg: Trump-Putin call seen as victory in Russia

The Russian leader was able to set his own conditions for peace in a two-hour phone call with Donald Trump.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Thumpalumpacus said:
Judging by some of the headlines today in Russia, Moscow believes that the latest telephone conversation between Presidents Putin and Trump went well - certainly for the Kremlin.

"Putin and Trump agreed to work together on Ukraine resolution," concludes Izvestia.

"Record-long Putin-Trump call," declares Komsomolskaya Pravda. The paper's website adds: "As things stand Russia has scored a diplomatic victory here."

Why are some in Russia claiming "victory" after this two-hour phone call?

Probably because, by the end of it, Vladimir Putin hadn't been pressured into making any major concessions to Ukraine or to the United States. On the contrary, he had - in effect - rejected President Trump's idea of an immediate unconditional 30-day ceasefire.

[...]

Not only did Moscow not agree to an unconditional ceasefire, President Putin set his own pre-conditions for peace.

They include an end to Western military aid to Kyiv and intelligence sharing with the Ukrainians, as well as a halt to mobilisation in Ukraine. Such conditions are widely viewed as a way of securing Ukraine's capitulation.

It's hard to see Kyiv agreeing to any of that.

But could the Trump administration eventually be persuaded, by Moscow, that such conditions are acceptable? And if so, would Washington force Ukraine to accept them?

www.bbc.com

Rosenberg: Trump-Putin call seen as victory in Russia

The Russian leader was able to set his own conditions for peace in a two-hour phone call with Donald Trump.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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Let's also remember that Putin made him wait for over an hour...and in fact was filmed laughing off a warning about being late.
 
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Our Best Look At Ukraine’s ‘FrankenBuk’ Air Defense System

The best-known of Ukraine’s so-called ‘FrankenSAMs’ puts RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles on a Soviet-era Buk-M1 ground-based air defense system. The best-known of Ukraine’s so-called ‘FrankenSAMs’ puts RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles on a Soviet-era Buk-M1 ground-based air defense system.
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