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Comparison of Ruta, Neptune, Tomahawk, and Flamingo missiles (AI generated)

Feature
Destinus RutaNeptune (Long Neptune)TomahawkFP-5 Flamingo
Origin and purposeA low-cost, tactical "missile drone" developed by the Swiss-Ukrainian company Destinus with a Spanish navigation system. It is designed for swarm attacks, reconnaissance, and strikes in GPS-denied environments.Originally a Ukrainian anti-ship missile, the Long Neptune is an upgraded variant with a land-attack capability. It gained notoriety for sinking the Russian warship Moskva.A long-range, subsonic cruise missile developed by the U.S. that has been in service since 1983. Designed for precision strikes against land targets from ships, submarines, or land platforms.A massive, domestically produced Ukrainian strategic weapon developed by Fire Point. Its purpose is to hit deep into Russian territory for long-term conventional deterrence.
Guidance systemUses an advanced Guidance, Navigation, and Control (GNC) system from Spanish firm UAV Navigation. It is designed to be highly resistant to jamming and GPS spoofing, and may use optical navigation.The Long Neptune features an upgraded guidance system that includes GPS/INS for the mid-flight phase and an infrared homing system for terminal guidance.Features a mature and reliable navigation suite, including GPS, Inertial Navigation System (INS), and Terrain Contour Matching (TERCOM). Modern versions can provide battle-damage assessment.Relies on a jamming-resistant GPS/GNSS system with INS backup. It reportedly features Controlled Reception Pattern Antennas (CRPA) to enhance GPS signal resilience.
RangeUp to 500 km, sufficient for tactical strikes behind the front line.Up to 1,000 km, for striking targets in Russian territory.1,600 km for conventional variants.Up to 3,000 km.
SpeedSubsonic, with a cruising speed of up to Mach 0.8 (approx. 980 km/h).Subsonic, with a top speed of up to 900 km/h.Subsonic, with a cruising speed around Mach 0.74 (approx. 885 km/h).Subsonic, with a cruise speed of 850–900 km/h and a top speed of 950 km/h.
WarheadAn estimated payload of tens to around 100 kg, designed for tactical strikes.A 260 kg warhead, an increase from the original anti-ship version.A conventional unitary warhead of about 454 kg (1,000 lbs).A massive 1,150 kg warhead.
CostLow cost is a key feature, enabling mass production.Estimated to be around $1.5 million per missile.Estimated cost of over $1.3 million per missile.Reportedly around $500,000.
Operational useUsed by Ukrainian forces for tactical strikes behind enemy lines.Used by Ukraine to sink the Moskva and, in its land-attack variant, to strike targets in Russian territory.Combat-proven weapon used extensively by the U.S. military since the First Gulf War.First combat use reported in August 2025, with plans for mass production and use against high-value targets deep in Russia.
 
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RogerdeLluria said:
Comparison of Ruta, Neptune, Tomahawk, and Flamingo missiles (IA generated)

Feature
Destinus RutaNeptune (Long Neptune)TomahawkFP-5 Flamingo
Origin and purposeA low-cost, tactical "missile drone" developed by the Swiss-Ukrainian company Destinus with a Spanish navigation system. It is designed for swarm attacks, reconnaissance, and strikes in GPS-denied environments.Originally a Ukrainian anti-ship missile, the Long Neptune is an upgraded variant with a land-attack capability. It gained notoriety for sinking the Russian warship Moskva.A long-range, subsonic cruise missile developed by the U.S. that has been in service since 1983. Designed for precision strikes against land targets from ships, submarines, or land platforms.A massive, domestically produced Ukrainian strategic weapon developed by Fire Point. Its purpose is to hit deep into Russian territory for long-term conventional deterrence.
Guidance systemUses an advanced Guidance, Navigation, and Control (GNC) system from Spanish firm UAV Navigation. It is designed to be highly resistant to jamming and GPS spoofing, and may use optical navigation.The Long Neptune features an upgraded guidance system that includes GPS/INS for the mid-flight phase and an infrared homing system for terminal guidance.Features a mature and reliable navigation suite, including GPS, Inertial Navigation System (INS), and Terrain Contour Matching (TERCOM). Modern versions can provide battle-damage assessment.Relies on a jamming-resistant GPS/GNSS system with INS backup. It reportedly features Controlled Reception Pattern Antennas (CRPA) to enhance GPS signal resilience.
RangeUp to 500 km, sufficient for tactical strikes behind the front line.Up to 1,000 km, for striking targets in Russian territory.1,600 km for conventional variants.Up to 3,000 km.
SpeedSubsonic, with a cruising speed of up to Mach 0.8 (approx. 980 km/h).Subsonic, with a top speed of up to 900 km/h.Subsonic, with a cruising speed around Mach 0.74 (approx. 885 km/h).Subsonic, with a cruise speed of 850–900 km/h and a top speed of 950 km/h.
WarheadAn estimated payload of tens to around 100 kg, designed for tactical strikes.A 260 kg warhead, an increase from the original anti-ship version.A conventional unitary warhead of about 454 kg (1,000 lbs).A massive 1,150 kg warhead.
CostLow cost is a key feature, enabling mass production.Estimated to be around $1.5 million per missile.Estimated cost of over $1.3 million per missile.Reportedly around $500,000.
Operational useUsed by Ukrainian forces for tactical strikes behind enemy lines.Used by Ukraine to sink the Moskva and, in its land-attack variant, to strike targets in Russian territory.Combat-proven weapon used extensively by the U.S. military since the First Gulf War.First combat use reported in August 2025, with plans for mass production and use against high-value targets deep in Russia.
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Good stuff. It would be interesting to compare the radar cross-section. Flamingo, most probably, is the worst.

A recent interview with the founder and chief engineer of Fire Point, the producer of Flamingo.
In Ukrainian, Google Translate should help.
Note that according to him, Flamingo has been codified as the long-range drone.
nv.ua

«Це була довга, методична робота». Головний конструктор Fire Point — про створення далекобійних БпЛА, ракет Фламінго і вкиди щодо компанії

Співвласник і головний конструктор Fire Point Денис Штілерман розповів в великому інтерв'ю Radio NV про створення і застосування далекобійних БпЛА та ракети Фламінго, а також прокоментував інформацію про російське громадянство і зв’язки з другом президента і співвласником Студії Квартал 95...
nv.ua nv.ua
 
Admiral Beez said:
I think it's time for Ukraine to send a FP-5 Flamingo strike into the Russian defence ministry in Moscow.

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General Staff Building (Moscow) - Wikipedia

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Main Building of the Ministry of Defense (Russia) - Wikipedia

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Too soon, I think. Moscow is well protected.
But there are many "soft targets" in the Russian Federation.
Currently, the protection of critical elements in refineries (cracking units, etc.) is being urgently upgraded with screens and nets. They work against light drones. Probably, they will fail against a fast and heavy projectile.
 
www.armyrecognition.com

Ukraine to receive 60 US-made M110A2 203 mm self-propelled howitzers from Greece

Greece to transfer 60 M110A2 howitzers, 150,000 shells, and Zuni rockets worth €199.4 million to Ukraine via Czechia, using proceeds for defense upgrades.
www.armyrecognition.com www.armyrecognition.com

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Glider said:
A second possibility is China.
I have always believed that Russia's biggest threat is China. Ukraine is doing a first class job of sucking all the military strength out of Russia in other words doing China's job for them.
Ukraine isn't a serious threat to the state of Russia, in the sense that it really doesn't care if Russia stands or falls, as long as it leaves them alone. It is also trying to take back what was recently taken from them.
China does have the military, financial and political will to take control of large parts of Eastern Russia. Often these parts were taken over by Russia at the end of WW2, and culturally they are more similar to China than (Moscow) Russia which will help China considerably. Financially these areas have been bled dry by Russia with the oil, gas and minerals extracted from their lands, but the money has stayed in Western Russia. They have also paid a far higher cost in lives during the conflict in Ukraine than those in Western Russia.
If China was to make a move with Putin in or out of Power, Russia will have serious problems and hanging on to Crimea, would be the least of their concerns. This would give Ukraine their chance.
In brief, I believe that without the raw materials in the Eastern areas of Russia, Russia as we know it will be finished and both Russia and China know it.
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When the war first started I wondered if China would make a smart move to abandon its support of Russia (see Sino-Soviet split) and throw its lot in with Ukraine, with a move to get its Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) from the Stans (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan) to Europe through Ukraine. Imagine Putin's faceplant if in March 2022, China denounces Russia's action and votes in favour of UN ES-11/1, condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine. This is followed in Sept 2022 by Xi Jinping inviting Zelenskyy to meet privately with him in Kazakhstan during Xi's first international trip since Covid, after which non-lethal aid begins to flow from China to Ukraine. Next, in Dec 2022, Xi visited Saudi Arabia, and in this scenario, after securing oil supplies from the Arabs, announces that China will begin limiting its purchases of Russian oil and gas, with an aim to be zero on both by the end of 2024. In 2024, China unilaterally cancels the 2008 China-Russia Border Agreement and demands that negotiations begin on returning territory to China. Then I woke up, sigh...
 
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