Alternative German Fighters: Me-209, Me-309, He-100, etc.
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the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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well, the germans had crazy designs for just about every plane going, chances are there's a german plane that looks like any modern plane, that doesn't automatically mean they copied the design..........
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Smokey said:
Possibly - I know they also consulted with Jack Northrop before he died.
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CharlesBronson
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FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Charlie, those black and whit photos look like a 1950s science fiction movie shot!
Great stuff though!
Great stuff though!
KraziKanuK
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plan_D said:
The wing of the HP Victor was based on the work of Kosin and Lehmann who had done at least 3 versions of the crescent wing for the Ar 234.
the lancaster kicks ass
Major General
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the HP victor wasn't a delta wing.........
The FMA IA 37 does look lie a space rocket plane
Heres some more
http://www.luft46.com/luftart.html
Skip Talbot's Messerschmitt Me P.1110 "Ente" single seat fighter
Marek Rys's EMW A-6
http://davidszondy.com/future/Thunderbirds/thunderbird1.htm
http://davidszondy.com/future/Flight/safeplane.htm <--Weird, interesting site
An Arado TEW 16-43/13 barely escapes a mid-air collision with a Davis Manta* fighter, while climbing vertically.
*The Manta was an American project for a long-range high-performance fighter, powered by a simple 1150 hp Allison engine driving a contra rotating prop. The patented Davis airfoil used on the Manta's wings enabled it to have an endurance of ten hours, making it an ideal escort fighter for bomber formations. The Manta project was canceled in 1943 under mysterious circumstances...
Davis Manta Fighter
http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/aircraft1.htm
The Davis Manta Fighter was an American fighter design by David R. Davis of the Manta Aircraft Corporation, LA. It was supposed to act as a long-range bomber escort. Its sophisticated aerodynamics should've given it incredible performance. The design didn't pass beyond a full-scale mockup, built in 1942.
Daniel Uhr's Messerschmitt Me P.1110/I
Another modern looking design
Heres some more
http://www.luft46.com/luftart.html
Skip Talbot's Messerschmitt Me P.1110 "Ente" single seat fighter
Marek Rys's EMW A-6
http://davidszondy.com/future/Thunderbirds/thunderbird1.htm
http://davidszondy.com/future/Flight/safeplane.htm <--Weird, interesting site
An Arado TEW 16-43/13 barely escapes a mid-air collision with a Davis Manta* fighter, while climbing vertically.
*The Manta was an American project for a long-range high-performance fighter, powered by a simple 1150 hp Allison engine driving a contra rotating prop. The patented Davis airfoil used on the Manta's wings enabled it to have an endurance of ten hours, making it an ideal escort fighter for bomber formations. The Manta project was canceled in 1943 under mysterious circumstances...
Davis Manta Fighter
http://home.wanadoo.nl/r.j.o/skyraider/aircraft1.htm
The Davis Manta Fighter was an American fighter design by David R. Davis of the Manta Aircraft Corporation, LA. It was supposed to act as a long-range bomber escort. Its sophisticated aerodynamics should've given it incredible performance. The design didn't pass beyond a full-scale mockup, built in 1942.
Daniel Uhr's Messerschmitt Me P.1110/I
Another modern looking design
cheddar cheese
Major General
Nice! Thunderbird 1 was actually based on the EE Lightning though 
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I LOVE THE THUNDERBIRDS!
cheddar cheese
Major General
Me too I feel like watching an episode now! 
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Uhgggg! I want to watch the Thunderbirds! Did you ever see the episode when TB-1 get's shot down?
KraziKanuK
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the lancaster kicks ass said:
Really? Only pointing out that the Brits did use German designs.
cheddar cheese
Major General
Yeah! Ive seen pretty much all the episodes!
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
cheddar cheese said:
I'd like to get my hands on all of them on DVD
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CharlesBronson
Senior Master Sergeant
I really like this 3 view of Ho-229.
Actually those are extracted from here:
http://www.geocities.com/bacosistemas01/Imagenes_2.html
you can see at list 3 german designs in there, can you name it ...?
FLYBOYJ said:
Actually those are extracted from here:
http://www.geocities.com/bacosistemas01/Imagenes_2.html
you can see at list 3 german designs in there, can you name it ...?
delcyros
Tech Sergeant
Nice infos here.
Just two things to add:
The Horton Parabola wasn´t the Horten VI but a 1938 derivate of the Ho-III program (see Horten, flying wing, 5th ed. (Graz 1993), page 66f.), which never flew.
The Horton VI was a high performance glider, based on the Ho-IV with even more aspect ratio, wingspan and gliding abilities (1:45 compared to 1:36 of the Ho-IV), making it the best glider of it´s time and the next decades, too.
(see Horten, as above, page 109.)
It should be noted also that Northrop got his contract for his first flying wing just a week after the Times published a picture of the Ho-III (DG-10-125) flying and the title: "German flying wing over Berlin".
There truly was kind of cross influence from both sides, which allowed support for these risky designs.
Just two things to add:
The Horton Parabola wasn´t the Horten VI but a 1938 derivate of the Ho-III program (see Horten, flying wing, 5th ed. (Graz 1993), page 66f.), which never flew.
The Horton VI was a high performance glider, based on the Ho-IV with even more aspect ratio, wingspan and gliding abilities (1:45 compared to 1:36 of the Ho-IV), making it the best glider of it´s time and the next decades, too.
(see Horten, as above, page 109.)
It should be noted also that Northrop got his contract for his first flying wing just a week after the Times published a picture of the Ho-III (DG-10-125) flying and the title: "German flying wing over Berlin".
There truly was kind of cross influence from both sides, which allowed support for these risky designs.
