BULLSHIT. Your data is bullshit, your rational is bullshit, the whole lot is bullshit. What basis (other than 'national pride') do you have to qualify them. You are just talking bullshit....
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PLEASE GIVE THE LINK OF VIDEOS OF BEST SHOW OF THE OTHER SUPERSONIC AEROBATIC TEAMS….
I GAVE THAT FOR TURKISH STARS! IF YOU WRITE, ALL OF US CAN EASILY REALIZE MY DATA: "TURKISH STARS IS THE BEST AEROBATIC TEAM OF THE WORLD"
And where is your proof of that? Who did the analysis and what criterion was used?1F-5 has already been proved to be the BEST SUPERSONIC JET FOR AEROBATIC SHOWS. Many analysis were done before selecting that jet.
And those 130 reasons based on a technical presentation of each aircraft?The truth of analises were proven: Turkish Stars make better maneuvers than the teams having F-15, F-18, Su 27! (tightness, close mirror image,...). There are approximately 130 reasons why NF5 jets are the best jets for airshows.
WRONG - in the states and many other countries the aerobatic "BOX" changes based on the airfield in which the team is performing, especially if the show is at a civilian field and this is also governed by input of local Civil Aeronautics authority and the FAA if the show is in the USThese are THE SAME when the aerobatic teams perform IN THE SAME AIRSHOW PLACE! Hence, in some countries, the aforementioned aerobatic teams performed in the SAME WEEK in the SAME AIR CONDITIONS in the same AIRBASE!
And you know this how? Have you ever flown in a jet in an aerobatic formation?If you fly alone, then the 3D-complexity-count is only 1 (you care to yourself, you do NOT need to care any block of jets other than you. You alone are the BLOCK.). If you fly with some other pilot together (2 planes), then 3D-complexity-count is 6 (A cares A, A cares B, B cares A, B cares B, A cares the 2-block, B cares the 2-block), If you fly with other 2 planes, then 3D-complexity-count increases (A needs to care NOT ONLY THE OTHER JETS separately, but also the other 2 planes (the BLOCKEDNESS of the other two)),… 3D-complexity-count exponentially increases.
Forming the BLOCK with 8 jets is HARDER THAN forming the BLOCK with 6 jets! One cannot turn tightly in safe feelings when the number increases!
And I would bet any of the other teams can do the same maneuver if permitted to do so and if the aircraft is capable of doing it as well as if it could be done safely. Again, have you ever flown in formation in a jet to express this is an authority?!?!?Though the some of the aforementioned aerobatic teams are all SUPERSONIC, Turkish Stars performs "mirror image" better than the others even under difficult conditions (high speed Low altitude)!
ALSO: Members of Turkish Stars are elected from F-16 squadrons of Turkish Air Force (F-16 that ThunderBirds uses!). Members of Turkish Stars performed "<1 meter mirror image" with F-16s as well when they are in F-16 squadrons. So, the ABSENCE of "<1 meter mirror image" of ThunderBirds comes from NOT the potential of the jet they use, but the capability they have (more truly, they do NOT have)!
And of course the Thunderbird rates are going to be higher, they been around almost 5 times longer than the Stars and fly twice the shows.If I said "accident NUMBERS", then you would be right. But, I said "accident RATES! The RATIO of accidents (number of accidents/<total shows+sorties>) are very high for Thunderbirds!
The data is available to show flight performance of the F-16 and by the way, the US army does not operate F-16s.Filling the open squares in the chart:
NOT possible for some squares: ThunderBirds uses F-16s, if their data is explained, then the capability of them is also revealed since there are F-16 squadrons in many countries. US Army does NOT want that.
Your data shows nothing but nationalistic pride and gibberish. You have provided no technical data, aircraft performance numbers, Wing loading and power to weight ratios to show the F-5 is "the best air show aircraft."PLEASE GIVE THE LINK OF VIDEOS OF BEST SHOW OF THE OTHER SUPERSONIC AEROBATIC TEAMS….
I GAVE THAT FOR TURKISH STARS! IF YOU WRITE, ALL OF US CAN EASILY REALIZE MY DATA: "TURKISH STARS IS THE BEST AEROBATIC TEAM OF THE WORLD"
I DO NOT WANT TO READ ANY POST WITH NATIONALISTIC ATTITUDES.
I WANT A VIDEO PROOF THAT THERE IS ANOTHER AEROBATIC TEAM IN THE WORLD BETTER THAN TURKISH STARS. VIDEO PLEASE! NOT RIDICULUOUS WORDS BY THOSE WHO ARE FOREIGNER TO THE SUBJECT.
I DO NOT WANT TO READ ANY POST WITH NATIONALISTIC ATTITUDES.
pbfoot:
I wondered who are Snowbirds: I examined and found that:
Canadian Snowbirds:
Canadair CL-41 Tutor : (never exceed speed: 763 km/h).
I already seperated the Aerobatic Teams in two main groups:
HORSES: Supersonic ones.
DONKEYS: Not supersonic ones.
Snowbirds even cannot make Turkish Primary School pupils (accostomed to HIGH SPEED ADRENALIN SHOWS) enjoy with them some couple of hours. They get bored immediately. Surely!
VIDEOS ARE STILL WAITING (for the objectors)!
I Sent VIDEOS (TO WATCH), Pictures (TO LOOK).
I ALSO EXPECT VIDEOS AND PICTURES IN RESPONSE NATURALLY.
NO NEED TO READ SOMETHING. SEND VIDEO. ALL I WANT IS THAT.
you keep posting crap about discrediting the Blue Angles
Sorry for that. I should not write the bad clothes of others (BTW, I did NOT post any UNREAL thing. The post I sent was from the official team informators of the Blue Angles). Anyway, what I did was wrong.
And now that I got your attention - that photo shows 2 F-18s at 125 knots - can an F-5 do that?!?!?!?FlyBoyJ;
You changed the photo I uploaded. If you think your definition was better than SHOULD NOT WE SEE the TWO DEFINITIONS TOGETHER SO THAT THE OTHERS DECIDE WHICH ONE IS BETTER?