The M12 wasn't a tank, it was a GMC. How can you put that in the same competition as a tank for firepower? Come on, let's be serious, it's not in the same field as the tank - it's mobile artillery.
I thought of that when I posted, if it doesn't count, it doesn't count.
the Firefly wasn't in American service, notice I stated, "Most powerful American Sherman
Did you? All right then.
I will give the M4A3E2 as the most heavily armoured Sherman.
2nd most heavily armoured tank in WW2 I believe? (After the Maus 8) )
So, the M4A3E8 was the most powerful American Sherman on the combination of armour, firepower and mobility. Due to the simple fact, the M12 wasn't a tank, Firefly wasn't American, M4A3E2 lackes mobility and firepower.
Yes, though I think an early Super-Sherman maybe saw WW2 service?
Yes as a trainer the Covenator was OK.
I thought the Centaur never really saw service, like the Challenger?
(It did, but didn't)
Anyway the Centaur was designed for the Meteor and most, if not all were retrofitted with the Meteor anyway.
I wonder what the letters mean...
Liberty, Meteor, but I guess it's a sarcey question?
The OQF 77mm lacked the power of the OQF 17pdr through all ranges but only slightly.
I guess that as the range increased, so did the performance difference?
How is that combination? "...mobile artillery piece and firepower..." That's the whole idea of a SPG - it's a mobile gun.
The JagTiger and your favorite; the Elefant weren't really that mobile.
And the M40 was larger ...
Yes, did they all have HVSS?
And then there's the IS-1 and IS-2 (IS-3 not included, didn't see service.)
The IS3 may have seen service, the IS1 didn't IIRC.
10st_Hussars said:
First Off dont be so bitter, your not the center of this whole site so I didnt post specifacly for you and I didnt post delibaratley to ruin your day.
Go on fella!
He's actually alright today though.
And the Is-2 is the Stalin Tank, and the Is-2 was a development of the KV series Tanks
I thought you meant that, to me Stalin allways means IS2(incl M)
Like The Tiger was a development of The Panzer.
Did you know that the steering of the Tiger was developed by the bloke who owned Aston Martin?
David Brown hence; DB5, DB7, DB9 etc.
The Is-2 was only designated with the Is not the Kv because it was alighter tank.
It was quite different as it used torsion bar suspension plus many, many other differences. I think 100% was changed - effectively making it a whole new tank.
And excuse my error with my last post I did meen T-34/76.
I'm not bothered if you included the T34/85 personally.
For importance, rather than performance, I've narrowed it down to 1 for each nation except USSR:
UK
MatildaII
USA
M3 Prototype
USSR
T34, KV, IS all roughly equal?